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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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ResinRat2

Quote from: Tacmatricx on September 27, 2008, 03:11:15 PM
For the tungsten I wanted to try a three rod configuration where you have one generation, one regeneration and one neutral...

The benefits are that any build up on the tungsten is eaten off during the cycle and none of the rods are switched while "charged" from their previous role... might help reduce the last bit of zincates?
Chris (Tacmatricx)

It would give it a chance to spend some time working off the "sticking" material. I know I've seen it drop off at times when the zinc and tungsten/carbide electrodes are just left to run without regeneration going. ...I LIKE IT! It should help to reduce buildup. ...Nice.

Right now I am down to 5 minutes regeneration every half-hour for each zinc electrode. I am hoping to reach a point where the timing can balance the zinc regeneration layer so it stays thin.  Your idea could help to keep a handle on and deal with any small amounts of zincates that might form and are noticed. I will probably use this. Thanks for another great idea!!

Who knows, it may reach a point where the regeneration time may get down to only a minute or two, or even less than a minute every hour or so.

Trial and error Baby...Trial and Error!!
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

triffid

So far I don't feel like I deserve the same praise as Resin Rat 2.So far all I have done is declare my intention to go a different path than he did to try to add to the knowledge that he did (Resin Rat 2) acquire through the sweat of his brow.I did manage to buy my Muriatic acid today (31.45%HCl) for $3.69/gallon in the swimming pool dept of albertson grocery store.I don't intend to do much more until Nov when I am in my new place(I'm selling my house).I am here to try to add to the knowledge here.At least I have my acid now.I will assume that the inert ingredients are really inert and safe for humans since it is used in swimming pools.It should be the only acid I have to buy.Triffid

ResinRat2

Hi Triff,

The muriatic acid should work fine. I am grateful you are trying an acid-reaction system because I think you will get superior gas output when compared to the KOH or NaOH system. If you look at all the high-output systems that Dr. Griffin has demonstrated he always indicates that it is an acid or acid-iron type reaction. I just never experimented with the acid because I wanted to avoid the chlorine smell that will be coming from them.

Good luck
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

Update:

The timed system that regenerated each of the two zinc electrodes alternately for "5 minutes out of every 30 minutes run time" died after only two days of operation. The zincates built up and covered each zinc rod. This tells me that the "5 minutes on and  5 minutes off" configuration was superior.

I want to mull on this a bit and perhaps try a few shorter interval experiments before I get the larger reactor going. Just out of curiosity I wonder what results a "one minute on and one minute off" configuration would give while alternating the zinc electrodes? This would mean reacting just the barest minimum zinc surface layer then regenerating it right away.

I will have to change a bit of the wiring to test this, but I would like to try that next.

Thanks for your interest everyone
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

triffid

to resin rat 2 ,I felt that using an acid system as presented in the linnard griffin patent  would be easy for me.I would not have to work with metal electrodes,I would not have to cut them or fit them into a system.Just use iron in solution.Also I have read that an engine can generate 900 degrees C heat.The iron/acid system should be able to start making hydrogen and oxygen  at 65 degrees C.Also since I tried to do some earlier work with hydrogen boosters.I still have about three homemade units in the garage.Unfortunately I am in the process of trying to sell a house.So I'm having to clean up,throw away stuff,etc.This month I will not do much with it at all.Except keep all the materials together in a box or something.Also iron in solution would have a pretty large electrode surface area,hence maybe more hydrogen/oxygen production like you said.Jules Verne did predict that water would one day be used as a fuel to power our machines.I see the linnard griffin patent as being a fullfillment of that prediction.Keep up the good work.Triffid