Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[kukulcangod]

Resinr
         There is so much to read and understand in the patent , thank you for the suggestion

but this is another part I don't completely get, and is the use of the battery ,ok overunity would recharge the battery ,and then
how long to "regenerate " the system??
would that be practical ?
say running a house on storage battery power in the meantime?.....

then ,water ....but for what I understood again, this is not a closed cycle or self sustainable device, some metals would have to be replaced in time? as well as keeping and eye on water level .

Theoretically if overunity is achieved then that would be the lesser problem, but is it possible to draw that much electricity out of a chemical reaction??

.......and how expensive anyway would be to cover the cost of metal and water supply??

How big such a device have to be build to power something in a practical way? .....a big tank of quemicals on the roof top or the basement for example?

Sorry just very curious here I spent one morning starting at 3 am reading the patent



Cheers

[ResinRat2]

Hi K,
I will try to answer all your questions to the best of my ability.
Resinr
         There is so much to read and understand in the patent , thank you for the suggestion ? No problem, I hope big groups of other people start experimenting with the stuff on the patent. Then they can post it here and help us all.

but this is another part I don't completely get, and is the use of the battery ,ok overunity would recharge the battery ,and then
how long to "regenerate " the system??
would that be practical ?
say running a house on storage battery power in the meantime?.....
If you look back at a previous post in this thread you will see a diagram of a couple of circuits I drew out that will allow the ability to control the production of Hydrogen and Oxygen gasses; and also the regeneration of the zinc electrode. (Page 7 reply#122)The idea is to use two cells wired together. One produces Hydrogen and the other produces Oxygen while regenerating the zinc anode. This is to go for about 15 seconds or so, then the polarity switches and the Hydrogen and Oxygen are produced in the opposite cells. By continually switching between these circuits, this allows the continual production of both gasses, and the continual regeneration of the zinc at the same time. So there should theoretically be no down time. This was thanks to Dingus Mungus's idea on Page 7 Reply #127.

then ,water ....but for what I understood again, this is not a closed cycle or self sustainable device, some metals would have to be replaced in time? as well as keeping and eye on water level .The ultimate goal is a sealed unit. (Dingus Mungus's idea Page7 Reply #127)All gasses are put through the fuel cell that produces electricity and recycles the water and heat. The reactions in the cell will theoretically regenerate the metal colloids also. So the water level, colloids, and metals all regenerate and recycle. Theoretically, since it is an endothermic reaction, all energy to power the unit will come from the ambient temperature outside the unit.  This is the ultimate goal.

Theoretically if overunity is achieved then that would be the lesser problem, but is it possible to draw that much electricity out of a chemical reaction?? It should theoretically be scalable to any size we need. We humans are resourceful when not encumbered by nosey bureaucrats with greedy fingers.

.......and how expensive anyway would be to cover the cost of metal and water supply??
The metals and water should be cheap in comparison to oil based systems. If this works it should be economically viable.
How big such a device have to be build to power something in a practical way? .....a big tank of quemicals on the roof top or the basement for example?That is to be determined by further Research and Development. Sounds like fun. How about you jump in too?

Sorry just very curious here I spent one morning starting at 3 am reading the patent
No need to apologize. At 3:00 in the morning all I can do is get up, go into the John, pass gas and burp. You have my admiration.

Thanks for your interest. I look forward to your contributions.

[kukulcangod]

RR
       Thank you ,really for taking the time on pondering about this I think this questionare is going to be very usefull to us all
I'm quite sure your grey matter is high quality so it won't be swollen for long time
Yes I'll jump in trying to determine size of such a device and also my approach is going to be now to make electricity without explosive alternatives,
 

[ResinRat2]

Hi all,

Got a really neat piece of glassware that we were going to dispose of at work. This thing must be at least a few decades old. I snatched it up to use it for a volume-gas generation study at home. Experiment #13 (of course) from Dr. Griffin's patent bubbled into a glass by water displacement in a bucket. 2/3 of a cup over a 12 minute period. That calculates to about:

2/3cup  X  Pint   X  Quart  X   Gal.      X  3785ml  =  13.1ml
12 min     2cups    2pints     4Quarts       Gallon        min.

Not a very fast rate, but no power added to it. This should be enough to power a small fuel cell and regenerate a battery. Then use the battery to regenerate the zinc electrode. Over 100 hours that's approximately:

13.1ml    X  1 Liter  X  60min  X   100 hours  =   78.6 Liters of Gas generated.
min           1000ml     hour   

I put a match to the gas and got a neat "POOOOFFFFF!" Must be all hydrogen.

The next step is the fuel cell, which for me should be arriving on the 15th.

Here's a pic of the neat gas measuring apparatus:

         

[hartiberlin]

Hi ResinRat,
looks very nice.
I had no time to play with it yet.

Please keep us updated with all your work.
Many thanks and looking forward
to see your fuel cell setups with it.

Many thanks again.

Regards, Stefan.