Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[ResinRat2]

Hi Everyone,

I had the cell running all day and night. It is still giving off gas from the tungsten and aluminum/zinc electrodes. I pulled them out and took a couple of pics for your interest.

The picture at the bottom shows what the electrodes looked like when I pulled them out of the reaction container. notice the grey blob is wrapped around the aluminum electrode(s). On the left side is the tungsten electrode (1/8" diameter).

The top picture shows the aluminum electrodes after they slipped out of the grey blob. Notice they are the same starting thickness as the tungsten electrode. The blob is a rubbery type of consistancy.

I don't really have any comments at this point. I will look these over and let you know what else is interesting but right now I need to get to work so I'll communicate with you all later tonight after I get back home.

Thanks for your interest.

[ResinRat2]

Looking over the pictures I think the reaction did not go as it should have, and here is why.

The used alkali-zinc solution would contain various species of zincate complexes such as :
                  [Zn(OH)₄)]^-2

These complexes are used extensively in the art of metal plating.

What should have formed was a thin layer of zinc on the aluminum electrode. What I think happened was after I dipped the aluminum rod into the alkali solution I did not wait long enough for the aluminum electrode to become completely covered with zinc. I believe there were breaches in the zinc coating and once I connected the aluminum-zinc rod to the tungsten electrode the exposed aluminum began to react with the NaOH solution, forming hydrogen. This never allowed the zinc to completely cover the aluminum. Thus the zincates were probably attracted to the positive charges on the aluminum surface and they conglomerated around the aluminum rod in a blob of zincate complexes.

The fact that the aluminum rod looks thinner in the area that was immersed gives me a clue that the aluminum was reacting. This also explains why the gas from this aluminum-zinc electrode seemed to come from under the coating and bubble outward through holes in the coating.

This blob would be useless then.Though I could probably throw it back into the alkali solution and it would probably redissolve.

I think I need to start from scratch. Redo a reaction from the beginning and allow it to run maybe a day or two, then retry this with a new aluminum electrode. Then I will be more satisfied with what results I get. This solution was very "used". It had been through many cycles with two or three zinc anodes, and NaOH had been added to it twice in various experiments. This was really a quick shot in the dark experiment that sought to use some old reaction solution in some way before disposing of it.

So give me a bit of time to see what a repeat of this experiment will show.

I think Dingus said he was going to try it so I am curious to see what results he gets. He would get data before I would so I could see if my results replicate his.

Thank you for your interest.

[Trump]

Dave,

Finally found the correct forum so now I can read from page one and catch up on what has been done so far.

Trump

[ResinRat2]

 

[Dingus Mungus]

Welcome back Trump!