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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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ResinRat2

Sorry Chris, couldn't get good pictures of the threads. They only showed up well with a backlight and my camera shows it too dark and fuzzy. They were all up and down the electrode.

I then added triple the Mg and Ag colloids to try and speed the reaction. No good. The solubility of the cell was altered and I started to get precipitates. The cell turned a darker reddish color and conglomerations of solids formed all over the solution. There was no room left to add anything else so I ended the experiment, pulled and cleaned everything out.

Observations:
During this experiment with the zinc/aluminum electrode I noticed the cell was cleaner, none to very little precipitate was on the bottom and the zinc electrode seemed to keep its size appearance. Once the zinc electrode was wiped off the threads/replated material wiped off as well. At that point the zinc electrode seemed thinner; so using the aluminum/zinc seemed (subjectively) to keep the replating going at the same rate as the zinc consumption. This needs to be investigated further, but it looked promising.

Also, to be noted, the hydrogen rate did seem to slow once the aluminum rod was introduced into the experiment. This may imply that the reaction may have been slowed to allow the zinc to replate at the rate it was used. This would be my guess but it needs to be confirmed with further testing. Also of note, the aluminum rod did not seem to be consumed or pitted at all in the threaded area that was in contact with the zinc. This may not show up with the naked eye though. Perhaps visible microscopically, but no microscope was available. The inside zinc threads could not be seen or examined for consumption or pitting.

Based off these results I will build the reactor to allow use of the aluminum rod in further testing. The advantage of having the zinc replate at the same rate it is consumed means no reverse current needs to be applied to regenerate the zinc, though this appears to have the disadvantage of slowing the rate of hydrogen production. This may be offset by increasing the surface area of the tungsten so that the hydrogen production rate can be brought to an acceptable level. Another possibility is the introduction of a second zinc electrode to be used as a "replating" electrode (with aluminum) to allow the forward hydrogen reaction to return to its normal rate. This is to be designed and tested in the future.

Once again, it must be emphasized that all observations and rates were subjectively reported. No quantitative measurements were taken. Only operator opinion was used in the reporting of these results.

Next step: Testing of the PVC reactor.

Thank you for your interest.

Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

h20power

Hi everyone, Just in case you thought I was full of BS read this on Zigouras Racing:
http://blog.waterforfuel.com/2007/03/17/sky-driver-airlines-dropping-you-off-exactly-where-you-need-to-be.aspx#Comment

As you can see the US has it head in the ground like an osterage, hoping things will just get better somehow. I was really counting on Zigs too come through, since Hypowerfuel.com seems to have stopped for some reason also. waterforfuel.com is so close to getting things working I hope he makes it. I need more time and money always too broke to get things done in a timely fashion. Gas where I am is 335 a gallon now, just because, for there is no Huricain, or full scale war to blaim this time. The weather is good, we are at peace, just helping that country to get on their feet, so why the big increase in fuel prices?

It just makes me angry to see technology being supresst, and we really need it now. To many people are going without power that have families to raise, but the cost of living just is too much for them too bare.

Meyer's technology really works, it just needs some fine tunning is all. High voltage and low current do a number to water, Zigs was electrolizing aproximently two gallons a minute, and that's way more than any car would need to run on. I want to save our oil for it is needed to make plastics or do we want a clay TV box ???. I hate the way things are looking for it seems we have no future pass 2025, and the Government is fine with that, go figure.

ResinRat2

Ok, H2O please relax. You write like you are in a panic.

I saw a video where Stan Meyers admitted that the US government knew all about how his technology worked (for national security reasons), so you can be sure we are in no danger of running out of an energy supply. Everything that is happening with oil is completely controlled and planned, the oil bigwigs have no intention of letting their product cash-cow run dry. They will extend it and rake us well past our lifetimes.

What you need to do is concentrate on the BALL. Work toward the goal, and keep your results open-sourced so anyone can get the information and use it themselves. The only thing that prevents the spreading of useful technology is human greed.  Human Beings change and adapt, it's what we do best.

There are dozens and dozens of people on this forum alone that are working independently on research. Think how many are actually doing it all over the planet. Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean nothing is going on. Just relax man, not all humans just sit at home, drink beer, watch TV, and party every free chance they get. They are large and small groups of dedicated researchers that have many avenues of alternatives that will work.

We won't run out of power as quickly as you think. Just think of all the panic before Y2K. Yet everyone adapted and prepared. It is just human nature, just as long as we keep our cool and don't panic.

Big Oil has a great deal of power and influence locked up; but they still want to make money and build wealth. You can't sell products and profit from people who are broke and have no jobs. We still all need each other. Events are just progressing so they can keep their big profits at the maximum. That means controlling what technology gets out and when it is used.

So relax and keep your eyes on the BALL! Don't worry about it and just keep working. The year 2025 is still over 17 YEARS off. Can you imagine how much the world will change in 17 years. So stay cool man 8); and keep working.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

IronHead

That was very well said ResinRat. and true on all points.

h20power

So 17 years of being able to make plastic's is just fine by you two, huh? My kids will still be in high school, but who cares now days it's every man for himself. So lets just forget our children and use it all up they will make due somehow, right? So self centered, so me me me, I am really supprized with you on this one Ironhead.

I am somewhat concerned since I was really helping them out, with information sharing on the site. So you can see my concerns now, right ???

Well, I'm off for a bit. I will try and share, but not sure if that's a good idea, since no one is going to be able to use it anyways, guess I'll just give up, for what's the point?