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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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ResinRat2

Hi Walterj and everyone,

WHOOOHOOO! I got it to work the way I wanted it to.(mostly).

By switching the fuel cells so that the low voltage one has the hydrogen going through it first (for regeneration of the one zinc electrode) I am able to get full voltage off the small fuel cell (0.9 volts) which is the maximum for the small one and should be enough for regeneration, and sure enough, I saw the oxygen bubbles coming off the electrode and the zinc re-plating. The larger fuel cell was next in line for the hydrogen and after a short time it started to turn the small fan, then turned faster, then went at a good constant clip. So this setup has proved my hypothesis; that using two fuel cells, two zinc electrodes, and two tungsten carbide electrode connections to regenerate one zinc electrode while the other zinc electrode is being used to produce hydrogen does work. This is then a self-powering, self-regenerating unit; no fancy electronics, no batteries, and no complicated setup.

Only one problem is left to overcome, and that is a way to control the pressure between the two chambers so the electrolyte liquid level stays constant. Then I can let it run and run and run on its own without having to keep an eye on it so it doesn't overflow into the fuel cells.

So I may still need to redesign the reactor, but my mind is brainstorming and I may be able to think of a way to solve that problem as well and still use this present reactor design.

Man, I am so close to doing the long term testing, but right now I've got to get to bed. I need to get up for work in 4 hours.

Thanks for your interest and patience.

Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

walterj7

Resin,

What a great milestone you have just accomplished!

Your right people have spent literally thousands of hours in hundred (or thousands) of experiments involving electronics (some very advanced and unbelievably complicated)  magnets, pulsing, frequency generation and modulation, plasma generation as well as every permutation that can be thought of just to approach where you are today!

As an old Engineer I learned the hard way there is always more than one to accomplish any objective.
this approach to a problem involves breaking down the goal into a series of tasks and develop a series of solutions. While this approach works with known technology pretty well it Many times overlooks the simplest and most elegant solutions. You have really  made a great contribution to all of us by 'Thinking Out of the Box' and taking a approach no one has ever taken!

My hat is off to you! Thank you for your clear thinking and dodged persistence. The goal is well in sight and you have made a major contribution to reaching it!

Please KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK and know that you are appreciated!

Sincerely,

Walterj


ResinRat2

Walterj,

Thanks for the kind words, but it's not there yet. I could use your ideas as well as anyone else who is interested. I will be posting a drawing soon of my setup so everyone could see where the problem is with the pressure differences and electrolyte overflow. I will need any ideas anyone has for a solution. Especially Engineer ideas.

Thanks to all.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

dutchy1966

Dave hi,

Congratulations on another milestone! I hope you can put a a drawing soon so we can help you search for the right solution to the overflow problem.
In case we want to use the gasses for say, burning, we don't have the overflow problem right? They just can be mixed then right?

regards,

Robert

ResinRat2

Quote from: mramos on October 11, 2007, 10:52:52 AM
Dave,
Great job.  Sounds like you are really getting close.  I will not take the fancy electronics personally :)
Let me know when I can buy one..  The fan motor, was it a small DC fan?  Did you notice the voltage or current?
Mike

Mike, the fan is a small DC motor fan that I bought with the fuel cell. There is NO information on the unit what draw it has. I'll throw a meter in the circuit sometime tonight if I get a chance and see what kind of mA reading it gives.

Yeah, you ARE the fancy electronics guy.

Once this puppy is running it'll still need a circuit to charge a 6 or 12 volt battery for future experiments. I think THAT would be a good fancy electronics project for a fancy electronics guy, don't you think? It would be neat to charge the 6 volt battery on the next door neighbor's DC scooter and install the reactor on it and have a perpetual running scooter that runs on water.

Just the kind of challange you could handle, eh? LOL!!

Thanks!!
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.