Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[motofox]

Hi,
     I have some detailed pdf ebooks somwhere, on how to build your own fuel cells. I think if you looked at them, you would see how you could comfortably build one into your reactor !
     Let me know if you want them.

[ResinRat2]

Hi Motofox,

If you have some information on how to build "cheap" fuel cells, them I'm interested (of course). I really appreciate the offer.

As an update, the reactor just passed the 156 hour running mark. This now surpasses the previous run of 155 hours when the last reactor run stopped. Voltages are staying around 0.700 volts for the fan operation and around 0.862 volts for the zinc electrode regeneration.

There is a yellowish precipitate that is starting to cover the tungsten carbide electrodes. This started to form two days ago and is increasing in amount as time goes on. I don't know what this is but it is not forming on the zinc side. It would be nice if down the road I could get a sample of it and run an FT-IR on it to see if I could identify it. I don't believe it's a zincate because the zincates form on the zinc side of the reactor. (At least that is what I have always seen in the past.) It could be a breaking down of a colloid or hydroxides of the silver or magnesium colloids. I have no idea; but the reactor is still running and putting out voltage.

This is an interesting development. My guess is it is not a good thing, but we shall see.

Research is always the exploration into the unknown. Who knows what we will find in the future.

Thanks everyone for your interest.

[Tinker]

I found this today on Science Daily.

Strasser and his team, which includes Ratndeep Srivastava, a graduate student, Prasanna Mani, a postdoctoral researcher, and Nathan Hahn, a 2007 UH graduate, have met and, seemingly, exceeded this ?magic number.? The team created a catalyst that uses less platinum, making it at least four times ? and up to six times ? more efficient and cheaper than existing catalysts at comparable power levels.

?We have found a low platinum alloy that we pre-treat in a special way to make it very active for the reaction of oxygen to water on the surface of our catalyst,? Strasser said. ?A more active catalyst means that we get more electricity, or energy, for the amount of platinum used and the time it?s used for. With a material four to six times more efficient, the cost of the catalyst has reached an important target set by industrial fuel cell developers and the U.S. Department of Energy.?

Anyone know what this is and how to access it? (Below) Even If I found it I wouldn't know what to do with it.

Strasser?s preliminary results and research have been published in the October 2007 issues of Angewandte Chemie International Edition and Journal of the American Chemical Society.

The whole article is here.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071030121117.htm.

Tinker

[Tinker]

RR

This might be right up your alley.

http://intl.emboj.org/nature/journal/v443/n7107/full/nature05118.html

United States Patent 20060264321

With any luck someone will name it and sell it.

Dupont makes something called "NAFION" I ran across in my travels. I get the impression it's relevant I just don't know where or how.

But what is being done now helps validate what you are doing, the world is just playing catch-up.



Tinker

P.S.
Have you ever considered using a potentiometer to vary the voltage/amps to the anode for continuous regeneration of the anode?
Once it is sorted out you could control it with a fixed resistor once the Electrolizer is is stable.

[hansvonlieven]

Thanks Tinker,

beautiful stuff!

Hans von Lieven