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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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Tinker

RR

Based on my travels with fuel cells you might want to consider this as your Membrane. http://www.cleanfuelcellenergy.com/membrane.html

Based On what I have read this is what keeps the O2 from negation of the power production.

Why does the membrane need to be vertical? VS horizontal in your rendering? on the H2 side? As long as you are in a Gas environment it doesn't matter. Save some vertical space.

Feel free form your own opinion
I do a lot of reading but lack expertise.

That said I think you are on to something.
Thanks.

Tinker







ResinRat2

Tinker wrote:
This, http://www.norkro.com/ and a cam and reed switch/s might work for anode switching.
Thanks Tinker. I will be looking at many possible ways to do the switching. I will consider this one as will once I see what kind of unit output I will have.

And a couple of questions? Any chance that your Electrolite is degraded due to lack of circulation or dead zones between the chambers.
This is entirely possible. I have not had a unit running this long before, and everything that happens here is unexplored territory. All I can do right now is keep it going and make observations at what happens. This run may die as well, but I will learn from it no matter what happens so the next stage has a better chance of success. R & D is always a learning experience.

Leaving a gap under the divider between chambers (no holes, more surface area, below the bubbles) as long as the divider extends below the bottom of the electrodes/anodes help?
I had problems with oxygen bubbles going down and over to the next chamber when the electrolyte was more concentrated and viscous in previous experiments. That is why it was designed as such. It could be that circulation is important and this is something I will be keeping in mind as future experiments emerge. I think the idea of a semi-permiable membrane would help here. Even something as simple as a very thickly woven cloth would keep bubbles from crossing chambers and still allow electrolytes to pass. Everything is being re-evaluated as this research proceeds. I appreciate your input.

Latest update on youtube at 310 hours: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9xjtJFZT_s



Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

Hi Everyone,

I received my platinum-coated nickel wire today. Six feet of it. So I will be doing experiments with it to see if I can get a current going in this system.

My reactor continues to run, but I am starting to notice that the fan stops for a few seconds every so often, then starts up again quickly. Almost like there is a blockage somewhere in the tubes, or in the reactor around the outlet tubes. Not sure. It is hard to see inside the reactor with all the "film" on the plexiglas sides. I noticed there is residue on the electrodes too, and the zinc is starting to have it as well. Not good news, but I continue to suspect that an increased hydrogen output would aid in the regeneration, and the keeping of the entire cell clean.
If this one slows down much, then I will stop it and examine the inside of the reactor and the surface of the zinc and tung/carbide electrodes. I want to see what is really going on.

Maybe I need to vary the switching of the electrode regeneration times, or perhaps extend regeneration times. I am not sure at this point. So far it has run 15 days and is on its 16th day running right now.

I will keep you posted on progress and observations. I am also working on the compliation of my work so far.

Thanks everyone for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

As I visually examine the reactor, what I can see is that the gases are getting "caught" by rough horizontal areas caused by the residue that has formed on many of the electrodes. I think this is a good indication that a vertical electrode position needs to be built into the next reactor. This would prevent the gases from getting caught and needing to build up in areas before they suddenly release. That also may be why the fan running is getting more erratic. I am going to try shifting the reactor position so it is vertical in nature, just to see what happens.

Might as well, can't hurt anything anyway.

Today I will begin my experiments on the platinum wire and see what kind of output results I can get.

Sixteen days continuous gas output so far.

Thanks for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

Nope, the present reactor can't be turned sideways, that would interfere with the tungsten/carbide electrode that is being used with the regeneration. It needs to run as is.

Thanks for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.