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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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hansvonlieven

Quote from: walterj7 on November 19, 2007, 09:21:37 PM
I think you should think first before you speak of things you know little or nothing about.

On this subject I'm something of an expert. I've been in and out of business since I was 16 years old.

Not to sure what's bogus about declaring your R&D activities a tax deductible activity (business expense et all) but it's defiantly NOT BOGUS or criminal.
A business is defined by American Heritage Dictionary as:
a NOUN:
   1.   1. The occupation, work, or trade in which a person is engaged: ie: the wholesale food business.
         2. A specific occupation or pursuit: the best designer in the business.
   2. Commercial, industrial, or professional dealings: new systems now being used in business.
   3. A commercial enterprise or establishment: bought his uncle's business.

What you and others have been doing (research and development) in the world of Hydrogen surly qualifies as Business Activities.

The income or profit component (which I assume you identify as missing) is NOT any requirement for a business.

Plenty of Business loose money regularly and sometime for years at a  time. The IRS allows you to loose money for 5 years straight and still be called a for profit business. If you go the 6th year loosing money then the IRS declares you a NOT for Profit Business.

But your actives are considered Business Activities, just NOT for Profit Actives.

Point in fact (I'm pretty sure) that's how and why Dingus was forced out of doing hydrogen activities at his rental property.

In most states of the united states all you need do is declare your actives to be a business. Maybe file a DBA (Doing Business As) certificate if you call your self for business activies by any name other than your real name, like "resinrat2 R&D". But this is NOT required when you use your own name ie: David xxx Hydrogen Research.
And BTW if you did have to file a certificate to do business as and don't, all that happens is that you can not defend your self in a civil (Law suit). Your business is NOT declaired Invalid, Bogus or Deceptive etc. (check with your lawyer about legal matters before you give legal opinions). To collect money, i.e. charge for your actives you may or NOT have to obtain an occupational license as your jurisdiction requires. But this is, if required at all, would only be to engage in business with others


Also doing business interstate or over the web in most instances, with the exception of legislative restrictions (such as drugs and gambling, EPA etc) is NOT licensed or regulated inter-states. The  States have Reciprocal laws allowing trade between them.

(BTW/ who wants to circumvent the HazMat laws? All you have to do is pay the $11 or $17 hazmat fee and keep an accurate log of your disposition of the materials!)
Yeah it all sounds to hard for someone who wants to change the world, yeah right!!!!...

But most importantly I resent the implication and out right accusation of dishonesty, fraud and feel pretty disgusted about the whole thing of even trying to source the material for you.

Definitely with very little respect left,

Walterj


WOW Walter,

That's a little over the top isn't it?

With NO respect left

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Super God

I'd rather fork out the 50$ and have someone professional do it, that way I'm guaranteed a good finished product in the end.  Just my two cents.  :D

-Brian
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ResinRat2

Quote from: walterj7 on November 19, 2007, 09:21:37 PM
I think you should think first before you speak of things you know little or nothing about.
On this subject I'm something of an expert. I've been in and out of business since I was 16 years old.

You are right, I know little or nothing about it. This is why I asked my Accountant about it, and was told to NOT do this. That is why I rejected the whole idea.

If you have no respect for me left then so be it. I am glad you are an expert on the subject. I am not, and that is why I am taking a different route.

I am just a business-ignorant lowly Senior Polymer Research Chemist. A dumb-schmuck who knows how to design, research and operate systhesis reactions. No need for any respect at all thank you very much; but business-wise I am not. So that is why I stay away from anything that sounds (to a dumb shmuck like me) shady or illegal, whether I am wrong or not.

In all honesty, it did sound illegal to me; and I was told to avoid it. Also, I don't trust ANYONE I don't know on the internet. I don't know you, and I don't know your motives. If you don't like that then fine with me.

Now, if you will excuse me, I am getting back to work.

Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

hartiberlin

Hi Walter, Hans and Dave,
please calm down.
I think this was just a misunderstanding between you.

Well, as the platinum is so expensive it will be good to look for
an substitute.

Graphite with the right "coating" seems to be one.
We only have to find the right coating material which
can split the H2 and O2 to H3O+ and OH- ions and charge up this
way the  graphite electrodes.
Colloidal silver might be one coating material.

Here is one Ebay auction where they sell graphite rods:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8280156070

and here another one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200109704468

You must remove the copperfoil  on these..

Then you put them into colloidal silver long enough
( at least an hour I would say and then let them dry.

If you would use colloidal platinum this would even be the best,
but maybe silver will also work.
Maybe we even find cheaper metals or (catalyst oxides..)

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Maybe also pressed activated charcoal pellets might work if they
are coated in colloidal silver solution, but to get the conduction
higher you would need a really heavy colloidal silver solution.

Here is an Ebay auction of it not too expensive:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110195784945

Put then into the center of these colloidal silver plated charcoal pellets
a graphite rod as the electrode and put the H2 and O2 gas beneath these charcoal
pellets in a NaCL- or NaOH -water solution.
Then it should split.

Study the concept of supercapacitors and you will see,
how the ions will charge up the graphite.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum