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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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ResinRat2

Quote from: joemumu on December 15, 2007, 05:54:52 AM
If you need machined parts and would be convenient for you, let me know.  I live in Eau Claire WI.
Alex

Hi Alex,
I appreciate the offer. I looked at my navigator and Eau Claire, WI is an easy (lol) 6 hours away, so it is a bit far.

The problem is that as it is being built I notice problems and little details that I would not have noticed otherwise if I am not right there. This is what would be missing if it is done at a distance away. Then, more wasted time, money, and materials.

Sorry, I guess if I had someone close by and we could collaberate and build it together then it would be more of an ideal situation. That is not going to happen, so I am doing the best I can right now. My patience has seen me through so far, what is left of it will get me the rest of the way.


Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

motofox


ResinRat2

Hi Motofox,

The first link you listed does not work.

The second link is a bit vague, I am not sure what is happening or exactly what they are proposing.
Does anybody know what the "secret" catalyst is?

Thanks for trying though.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

joemumu

@Motofox,

Yes this, (first link), looks very similar to what RR2 seems to be working on from the descriptions of his device.Ã,  If it is identical, only RR2 can tell us.

@RR2

You must have only clicked on the link.Ã,  The following needs to be copied at the end of it.Ã,  $sessionid$UTFLVFU5KGT1XQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2003/05/18/ncell18.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/05/18/ixhome.html

Alternately you could copy and paste the entire text including the link, (being careful not to click on the link itself directly), into the address bar on your internet browser, then of course launch it

Please give us your comments after you view it.

You are welcome to my offer when it becomes convienient to you.Ã,  As time passes you will become more confident of the mechanical integrity of your device.Ã,  Contact me when you feel it is time.

@all

This in no way affects the research that RR2 is currently doing and I wait eagerly for more data as it becomes available.

Thank you

Alex

ResinRat2

Ah yes, I copied and pasted it in reverse and was able to get the link to work.

This is not the same as what I am doing but it is very interesting. I think it may even tie into what I am working on in an interesting way. The electrolyte in the water is sodium carbonate, but this might work with sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide as well. From clues in the Linnard Griffin Patent and on his company's website (airgencorp.com) it is hinted that the zinc can be THERMALLY regenerated. What this means exactly I do not know, but I suspect that if the temperature of the reaction solution could be increased that it would help to speed the part of the half-reactions that regenerate the zinc. So my line of thinking leads me to the direction of research that would add this to the cell. Instead of trying to regenerate the zinc directly, perhaps I should split the power source so that the amount that would otherwise be going to regenerate the zinc would go to this type of setup inside the cell. This would raise the temperature of the electrolyte solution, and speed the reaction naturally. If I do this on the zinc side of the reactor, this would allow the zinc regeneration to occur at a faster rate, perhaps balancing the zinc regeneration speed with the hydrogen generation. So the cooler side of the reactor (hydrogen generation side) would run at a bit slower rate than the warmed side of the reactor (zinc regeneration / oxygen generation side.) That is my hypothesis anyway. It just needs to be tested.

Thank you very much motofox and joemumu. I don't know if it is possible to add this to my reactor setup because the zinc would plate on the negative electrode, but if I think about it for a while I might see  how this could tie in with the whole setup. This might even be what is happening inside my cell anyway. It is just that instead of a platinum electrode I am using a zinc electrode. I am not sure.

Wow, another direction to investigate. I really need a lab and some technicians. LOL!

Thanks for not giving up on me and throwing out those suggestions. I appreciate it.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.