Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[ResinRat2]

I read that you don't "HAVE" to use platinum as the core of a fuel cell and that Nickel also worked but wasn't as efficient and needed more surface area to work as well. i.e. you build a cell twice as large and you get the same results... and the same fuel consumption as the smaller platinized cell. I'd rather build a larger cell that I could one day "upgrade" to platinum... Have you tried talking to your local Jewelers store? They do platings all the time It'll cost you a little but you get what you pay for.

Please let me know where I can reference the nickel use in a fuel cell if you can. This is of great interest to me. I would rather pay for nickel than platinum. I also have not talked to any jewelers about plating. I have been just working on putting the larger reactor together right now. Time is tight and I work on this project as I find the time to do it.

Thanks for your interest and input.

Dave (RR2)

[Tacmatricx]

Hi Dave,

Here are two references to Nickel as the electrodes:

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell
"The electrode?bipolar plates are usually made of metal, nickel or carbon nanotubes, and are coated with a catalyst (like platinum, nano iron powders or palladium) for higher efficiency."

Plated with Platinum for higher efficiency... i.e. it will work with Nickel mesh but it works better when it's plated with Platinum.

2) http://www.qsinano.com/news9.html
"QuantumSphere, one of several companies investigating materials that could become alternatives to platinum, has developed a nano nickel material that costs only a quarter as much as platinum, according to the company's chief scientific officer, Douglas Carpenter. Platinum costs about $10,000 per pound, while nano nickel can be mass-produced for a fraction of that, according to Carpenter."

Nano-Nickel has more surface area than normal Nickel and because of the higher surface area, the efficiency is regained.

3) The top of the line electrode is a Platinum/Nickel alloy.

I will build a DIY Fuel cell with fine Nickel mesh and if it fails to work, I will have my jeweler buddy plate it for me. Anyone else is welcome to let us know? RR, Can you try some Nickel wire as you did with the platinum?

Thanks,

Chris

[Tacmatricx]

HahahHAHhahHAhaha.... It's Day 5 and I've FINALLY made it through all the posts!

Dear god I need a drink...

RR2,

I was thinking about your pressure equalization problem, If you design the cell with the fact that H2 gas is generated at twice the rate of the O2 then, by design the H2 side of the chamber should be twice the volume? This way the pressure should build evenly in both cells.

You may need to add a pressure switch to stop production if the larger cell reaches say 5-10psi.

If you were adding an Alkaline fuel cell I would pressurize both the H2 and O2 sides of the fuel cell and connect the water output port from the O2 side of the Fuel Cell to the O2 side of the reactor as well. This way you are not bleeding gasses to atmosphere and it would be totally sealed with no need to add water anymore? You extract the gasses from water, recombine them in the fuel cell and get back water, everything is pressurized so gravity pulls the water back into the cell via over sized tubing. Unless it's an atomic reaction occurring somewhere (and you're still alive) we should not be loosing any materials in the cycle.

Thanks,

Chris

[Tacmatricx]

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Chris

[infringer]

Since we are talking differnt chemicals... It seems to me using differnt metals and such it reminds me a lot of another super heated reaction caused by a mixture of metals...

I wonder why no one has expiremented with what kind of energy ouput they could get from other reactions...

One BIG one that comes to mind to me is Thermite! The amount of heat this stuff puts out in such a short time spell overunity in itself!

It could instantly vaporize water I would imagine... Not to mention if you were to use it for steam power somehow to then have the car run off of a steam generator...

Key point to realize boiling point of water is = 100?C = 373.15 K

Low heat application pulsed dc with sharp edges seems to be working for many or square wave patterns... This seems to create hydrogen with minimal power and done under certain conditions it seems to produce more then others things like plate spacing is critical too it seems but a possibility if fine tuned.

maybe lower heat chemical reactions or alkaseltzer lol may bring promise who knows gotta work at it I suppose...

Mentos and Diet Coke? hehe

Anyhow take care keep on searchin folks there is a solution to the energy crisis!