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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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tak22

a silent reader here,

yes I'm very interested in this, but I've been watching and waiting for a reasonably stable design with parts and suppliers. with design and parts out of the way I can jump in and help with the testing and improvements.

you guys have done very impressive work to get to this point and you get a big thankyou from me!

ResinRat2

I understand silent readers, we are not at a stable point yet.

We are learning as we go; my goal is a overunity design. Starting from scratch takes time. I have made many mistakes and had many failures along the way; and just understanding the chemistry and components involved has been a very interesting undertaking.

Replication of Experiment #13 of the patent does not replicate a very exciting reaction that produces tons of hydrogen in a short time. There are other experiments that are more reactive. Especially the Aluminum-Acid reactions or iron-aluminum-acid reactions.  These I have avoided because of the odor of sulfer and chlorine that goes along with the sulfuric and hydrochloric acids. So I have intentionally chosen a more mild reaction.

I also never intented to burn the gas, only feed it through a fuel cell and produce electricity. If you see the 350ml/min video that Dr. Griffin posted you will see the potential of this technology. That seems too fast for a fuel cell (maybe not) but I am starting small and working my way up.

Anyone can choose a more vigorous reaction if they desire, which would entail handling hydrogen at a faster rate. This is not where I want to go yet. I am trying to take slow steps to work upwards. A sealed cell is the goal for me right now. One that produces electricity, recycles all the components, and gets all its energy from the amibient air temperature. That is where I am going.  I hope we can all gain from this experience. I am doing the best I can right now, and learning as I go. Cost, time, and inexperience are why it is going so slow. I do believe this is worth the time and trouble, that is why I am doing this research. Dingus has been a big help, and any others who wish to contribute are welcome to give comments or research findings.

Thanks everyone for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

Dingus Mungus

Quote from: ResinRat2 on February 07, 2007, 09:44:03 PM
If you see the 350ml/min video that Dr. Griffin posted you will see the potential of this technology. That seems too fast for a fuel cell (maybe not) but I am starting small and working my way up.

LOL! Way too much hydrogen for your fuel cell, but just imagine...
http://www.fuelcellstore.com/cgi-bin/fuelweb/view=NavPage/cat=27

Quote from: tak22 on February 07, 2007, 08:00:03 PM
I've been watching and waiting for a reasonably stable design with parts and suppliers. with design and parts out of the way I can jump in and help with the testing and improvements.

That is my goal... Finding a solid enough design to make this technology kit ready. With any luck it'll spread quickly and get developed by someone in to a low cost high yeild home power generator. When I get my PSU we'll know the rough COP. Damn... I don't even think I can use a COP ratio, thats only for devices that generate heat... Hmmmm.

Updates coming soon!!!
~Dingus

ResinRat2

Hey Dingus,

$64K  :D!??!

I like the prices that say "Request Quote". :o :o

What a pain in the wallet :D :D!!!!!

LOL!!!
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

Dingus Mungus

Well the good news is, Those prices are for complete UPS style power backup systems. We would be looking at just the PEM cell core. Also right now its still new technology... It used to cost nasa several million per kW of PEM power. For the last few years congress has been investing in alternative energies to help further the developement process and lower prices. In a few years PEM fuel cells should be affordable enough for most americans to have in their cars or homes. In the mean time maybe one of these companies will act as a sponsor once we have something worth showing them.

All in good time,
~Dingus