Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[ResinRat2]

Are you still manually switching the power or did you work that out?

Yes, still manual; but once the larger unit is operating I will have more output to play with and then maybe the switching can be automated.

[hansvonlieven]

What are you talking about Mike?

He is already getting more out than in. He just wants a little more :-)

Hans

[NssB]

Is it not true to say, that any system of this kind can only ever be 100% efficient. Assuming this experiment was 100% efficient, you would be able to convert 100% of the 'ambient energy' consumed into work/re-gen. I believe this is RR's goal(or as close as possible).

As much as I'd like to believe it, I do not see how we can ever unbalance the following laymans equation in our favour:

Ambient Energy + Manual Effort = Power Out

And by 'manual effort' I mean, electricity....batteries.....pre-coiled spring etc etc.
Ambient Energy being ....temperature differential....ZPE..........etc


NssB

[ResinRat2]

How much energy does it take to make a gallon of gasoline? It must first be located, (labor, time, technology), then extracted with large oil rigs. Then it must be transported, then refined in huge oil distillation (processing) units. Then it must be stored and transported as well.
All this human time, labor, technology, and materials. It developed over time, and this process just needs to be developed as well.

Water is unlimited on our planet. Over 70% of the planet is covered with it. In the future we may not even need to use deionized water. Sunlight is unlimited as well. I look at it in terms of supply. The water is not consumed and lost. It is reclaimed. The sunlight gives everything on this planet life. Without it we would not be here. Think hard about this. Is oil unlimited in supply? Once burned, can it be reclaimed?

This technology is in its infancy. You need to see past the trees that block your view. Open your eyes and mind and realize what we have here. We will never get more energy than the sunlight that falls on the earth. True. So what? The sun should be around a few billions of years anyway. I think we can deal with that fine.

[Koen1]

Hi everyone. Sorry for butting in but instead of working trough 60 pages of posts I'd just like to ask one question:

I read about electrodes being used in a reactor. The topic title however is "hydrogen on demand WITHOUT ELECTRICITY".
If we are not using electricity at all, then where does mramos get his amps?
Or are we actually using electricity but do caloric calculations show that this is a lot less energy than the amount of energy contained in the hydrogen that is produced?