Pretty sure I have figured it out!

[aether22]

Edit: Joseph said: "Patents are expired but I left one insignificant item out to ensure that an unfriendly power would not be able to use it."  So obviously my optimism may be a little premature.

I think I know how Ed's tubes worked, or at least I know how they could work, and even better.

Maybe this covers Swiss ML also.

Ok, we know that it is possible for arcs and sparks to sometimes eject charged particles, especially I think negative arcs ejecting electrons.

It is not limited to arcs and sparks, if you take metal particles in a dielectric and apply high frequencies electrons are ejected and provide better ionization, Patrick Flanagan patented an air ionizer based on this, worth noting that metal particles in a dielectric is also termed 'orgonite', but that's another story.

Well enter Joseph Hiddink: http://www.rexresearch.com/hiddink/hiddink.htm

What he shows is that you can form a 2 terminal capacitor between a plasma and a metal plate, and that if you turn the plasma off (remove the HV source) it stops acting as a plate and the charges it has are no longer a part of the picture (because they were ejected at high speed effectively carried by the aether as the cap was turned off).
So now you have a single terminal capacitor, the tube you just charged.

And well in case you are new to this or something that raises the energy hugely!

So if anyone is interested in playing with this I think your odds of success are decent to excellent.
Although better operation would indeed come from having holes in the surrounding cylinder since the aim is to have the plates interact with as few of the charges speeding by as possible but it won't reduce the capacity hugely, also thin and probably single plates would make more sense (yes, this seems to disagree with both of them), copper would be a good choice, Aluminum a very bad choice (unless you wanted to collect the electrons maybe, of course I could be wrong).
Finally a simple copper coil (parallel caduceus?) should do fine as a capacitor plate.  (I will note though that I have not considered what may have been useful to attract orgone as it is likely what is helping spirit away the charges)

But start off with low voltages, yes you need HV to make the tube conductive but start of with low voltages between the plasma and the cylinder, you can't start too low (try 2v before you try 40kv ok).  Every single thing tells me that you should charge the plasma negatively and the cylinder positively (in Patrick Kelly's diagram which I assume is based on some reasonable research the + of a 12v battery is connected to the cylinder in line with a cap and coil) and the negative to the central conductor0, although it likely works both ways, no extra effort to try the reverse connection.

Please note that going at this with full power is likely to cause lightening bolts to come from the sky, no kidding. (read the Rex Research page)
And fry everything electronic.
Of course there is no need to apply HV between the cylinder the the temporary plasma plate, none of the others had the issues that Joseph has so no doubt it is just a case of keeping it reasonable.
Please note that this may be more powerful than ED's tubes since there is more gas and less metal.

This seems to be very very straightforward, it is possible however that some aetheric principles will help but there are 2-3 present in the basic form as is.

I believe that 'variable capacity' is most likely how Edwin's tube worked, and here is a great way to do it.
All you need is a fluorescent tube (maybe even a CFL?) or Xenon, some copper wire etc.. and you have a free energy machine!

I am right in the thick of something else but this sure is tempting, it makes tons of sense, if you are unclear or doubtful please read the Rex Research page: http://www.rexresearch.com/hiddink/hiddink.htm

Joseph claims free energy, and the design is very close and IMO makes more sense than any other theory of how Ed's circuit can possibly work, there is lots of evidence that charges are radiated and they are found to charge nearby metal in Tesla type setups, Both Ed's and Swiss ML tubes have holes suggesting that they are avoiding something. (the electrons thrown off)

[chips42]

Hi,
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[DrStiffler]

Edit: Joseph said: "Patents are expired but I left one insignificant item out to ensure that an unfriendly power would not be able to use it."  So obviously my optimism may be a little premature.

I think I know how Ed's tubes worked, or at least I know how they could work, and even better.

Maybe this covers Swiss ML also.

Ok, we know that it is possible for arcs and sparks to sometimes eject charged particles, especially I think negative arcs ejecting electrons.

It is not limited to arcs and sparks, if you take metal particles in a dielectric and apply high frequencies electrons are ejected and provide better ionization, Patrick Flanagan patented an air ionizer based on this, worth noting that metal particles in a dielectric is also termed 'orgonite', but that's another story.

Well enter Joseph Hiddink: http://www.rexresearch.com/hiddink/hiddink.htm

What he shows is that you can form a 2 terminal capacitor between a plasma and a metal plate, and that if you turn the plasma off (remove the HV source) it stops acting as a plate and the charges it has are no longer a part of the picture (because they were ejected at high speed effectively carried by the aether as the cap was turned off).
So now you have a single terminal capacitor, the tube you just charged.

And well in case you are new to this or something that raises the energy hugely!

So if anyone is interested in playing with this I think your odds of success are decent to excellent.
Although better operation would indeed come from having holes in the surrounding cylinder since the aim is to have the plates interact with as few of the charges speeding by as possible but it won't reduce the capacity hugely, also thin and probably single plates would make more sense (yes, this seems to disagree with both of them), copper would be a good choice, Aluminum a very bad choice (unless you wanted to collect the electrons maybe, of course I could be wrong).
Finally a simple copper coil (parallel caduceus?) should do fine as a capacitor plate.  (I will note though that I have not considered what may have been useful to attract orgone as it is likely what is helping spirit away the charges)

But start off with low voltages, yes you need HV to make the tube conductive but start of with low voltages between the plasma and the cylinder, you can't start too low (try 2v before you try 40kv ok).  Every single thing tells me that you should charge the plasma negatively and the cylinder positively (in Patrick Kelly's diagram which I assume is based on some reasonable research the + of a 12v battery is connected to the cylinder in line with a cap and coil) and the negative to the central conductor0, although it likely works both ways, no extra effort to try the reverse connection.

Please note that going at this with full power is likely to cause lightening bolts to come from the sky, no kidding. (read the Rex Research page)
And fry everything electronic.
Of course there is no need to apply HV between the cylinder the the temporary plasma plate, none of the others had the issues that Joseph has so no doubt it is just a case of keeping it reasonable.
Please note that this may be more powerful than ED's tubes since there is more gas and less metal.

This seems to be very very straightforward, it is possible however that some aetheric principles will help but there are 2-3 present in the basic form as is.

I believe that 'variable capacity' is most likely how Edwin's tube worked, and here is a great way to do it.
All you need is a fluorescent tube (maybe even a CFL?) or Xenon, some copper wire etc.. and you have a free energy machine!

I am right in the thick of something else but this sure is tempting, it makes tons of sense, if you are unclear or doubtful please read the Rex Research page: http://www.rexresearch.com/hiddink/hiddink.htm

Joseph claims free energy, and the design is very close and IMO makes more sense than any other theory of how Ed's circuit can possibly work, there is lots of evidence that charges are radiated and they are found to charge nearby metal in Tesla type setups, Both Ed's and Swiss ML tubes have holes suggesting that they are avoiding something. (the electrons thrown off)

@aether22
I believe you may indeed be close to the understanding and may indeed be right based of some work a few years back with plasma. I have plenty of equipment to try this in a few hours if I could get a better understanding of what you think the circuit may be. I looked at the documentation you pointed to, but where is the coil you speak of in this circuit, is this the missing part? If not what would it provide in terms of energy capture.

If you can draw something out I will indeed try it ASAP, maybe its just the old mind not seeing the clear picture.

[aether22]

'2 Terminal charging' is a clarification of what Joseph is talking about in the patent.

And 'One idea' is possibly the most simple way to get the effect, by having a arc that is positive and another  negative and connecting the 2 plates/cylinders together a charge will form based on the resistance between the 2 arc's, however when the arc's are turned off you have a far higher voltage as each plate is a monopole capacitor if the charges in the plasma dis their disappearing trick. (how you would know it is working though I am not sure)


One thing worth noting.
In one of his books William Lyne claims (and I think there are other sources) that high energy particles are released from nuclear instabilities of low atomic number atoms in arc's and that 12MEV radiation can come from an arc from the arc's effect on air. (Patrick Kelly has a bit of info on it in his book)

However I suspect that what may be really the case is that if you have an arc which forms a capacity to other nearby metal (or you are putting lots of amps), and the arc is positive or negative (but not both) then a very high energy radiation occurs as the arc's charges fly away.  Now I don't know a thing about the whole electron EV shoulders electron clustering thingy but could it be that this is the result of such clusters exploding?


"The inventor of this superb machine, Mr.Paul Baumann claims, its running principle was found by studying the lightning effects from nature."

It is all about the collapse of a charged plasma, but the effect only works if the plasma has a net charge, the higher the net charge the more is radiated, and the charges previously balancing it (on the plates with holes to avoid said radiation) have a very high charge remaining as their counterparts are far far away, by decreasing the capacity drastically the voltage (energy) is now huge.

I don't believe this radiation is deadly, if it were for the level released everyone playing this would be dead, the aether/orgone helps carry it away doing minimal damage, or to put it another way the orgone (generated by monoatomic gasses) helps the electrons tunnel their way out (much as the current from Stiffler/ATGroup's TMB Tunnels, or monatomic elements have been found to tunnel), that is why Edwin Gray found such curious properties to his electricity.

Also worth noting is that charges cylinders have 2 aetheric effects, one is they create an aether vortex (aether likes moving at right angles to electric fields), I have lots of correlative evidence for this and somehow Aspden found the same thing, and a positive charged cylinder with a negative charged pole inside will attract energized/agitated aether (AKA orgone), this is likely critical to the effect both occurring and not being deadly.

[aether22]

After talking to Joseph (phone and email), I don't think there is anything hidden.

You simply need the tube to be plain glass without any UV reducing coating, and possibly a fast extinguishing plasma (fluorescent stay active a while possible killing the effect) argon or neon should both do.  (I think glass does interfere with UV though so maybe UV tubes use quartz? I am unsure, plastic may work but don't expect a long life from it)

He suggested tiny NE-2 bulbs could be used, his only objection to Xenons was that they are too expensive. (again though he objects to coating, if it is because the UV must escape (UV and IR are meant to be related to the aether with some pretty wild claims) then glass IIRC won't work as it blocks UV so it may really be a good idea to use UV fluorescent tubes with possibly a custom gas filling as they musty be quartz?)

Edwin used air and I am pretty sure Paul Bauman did too, of course you may need higher voltages applied across the tube in that case (Not high voltages charging the cap though!) but fancy gas isn't required.

A TC or flyback may be suited to providing the HV to make the air into a plasma.