Fueless Friction Heater Manufacturer Found

[broli]

You could have spend that money on some donation here to speed something up rather be ripped off and even defrauded on that. You'd think for that price for something so basic they'd even kiss their customers feet afterwards.

[Cap-Z-ro]

There is much more to tell.

Get a load of the scammer's reply to my email, in quotation marks:

Regards...


   

Hi Don,

   Sorry about my slow response. I strained my foot badly and the first 2 days my foot was not happy at all. The actual shipping of the 1H/P ac motor is $59.00 and you should have it by Wednesday.
   Please see below answers about the questions. The person you took the unit to, shouldn't ad anything to the drum.

Best Regards
Themistoklis

~ DF MacDonald ~ <nodcam@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Hi Themis,
     
The heater arrived yesterday afternoon.  I immediately noticed the drum would not turn properly.
     

The drum turns fine Don, You just have to Adjust the cover at proper high so it doesn't contact the inside steel drum.

It seemed the drum was scuffing on the bottom of the outer cylinder which was evident by the scuff marks when I removed the drum.
   
   

Maybe the bottom of the steel drum went hockey because of the vibration during the shipping. The fix is to tie the lower shaft of the drum on a vice and pull out. This will end the scuffing and with the heat [the heat will keep the bottom of the drum expanded permanently]  it will never happen again.

I noticed that a nickel had been inserted into the round hole which housed the ring bearing and where the bottom of rotating drum had been ground in obviously efforts to alleviate the scuffing.
   

The nickel is there to support the Bearing. For the time being the bearing do not touches the nickel. After the first run of the Heater the Aluminum cell will expand and the bearing will settle up on the nickel

There was a noticeable gap where the two ends of the aluminum ring forming the under part of the lid met...an attempt had been made to weld the ends together.
   

The gap is normal Don because of the strip's thickness.

Both ends of the ring bent downward and away from the under part of the lid, to which it was riveted...numerous mis-measured holes in around the circumference of the rings were also apparent.
     
I took the unit to a local machinist for an assessment.
     
He determined that reason the drum was striking bottom was due to the fact that the bottom as well as the top plates of the drum were both bowed inward causing the outer wall of the drum to make contact with the bottom of the cylinder instead of the center aspect of the drum resting on the bearing mounted on the bottom of the cylinder as intended.
     
After adding a bushing to raise the bottom of the drum clear from the bottom of the outer cylinder so that the drum would spin freely on the bearing, he placed the lid on, and noted that the upper aspect of the drum was also scraping against the inside aspect of the ring which forms inner aspect of the lid on one side.
     
This problem was caused by the fact that both the top and bottom bearings were not properly centered in the bottom of the cylinder or the lid of the unit, causing scraping on the one side and a gap of nearly ÂÃ,½ inch between the drum and opposite side of the cylinder wall of the unit.
     
The upper shaft goes through a special closed bearing [the heat will not dry this bearing].
   

The person you took the heater to should ad nothing on the drum. A simple [vice pull] needed only. The unit is properly centered Don.

He also questioned the reliability of the heater due to the breach in the wall of the hollow drum chamber.
     
Themis, please contact me and let me know what you wish to do to correct this mistake.
     
Thanks,

[Omega_0]

$875 (motor extra) is too much to gamble without seeing the thing working before your eyes.
You made a mistake.

[Cap-Z-ro]

The concept works...else I wouldn't have 'gambled'

I got scammed is all.

I have since met a guy who made a working unit some 30 years ago...who will sell it to me cheap, if he still has it.

Regards...

[Pirate88179]

Cap:

Sorry to hear about this.  Tell you what, if this guy does not make good on his product or refund your money, I would report him to every agency that covers this sort of transaction.  I would also post the factual story of what happened on every blog or forum that I could find that deals with energy.  This will turn out to be a very costly mistake for him.  Don't libel him, just report the truth and you will prevail if challenged in court for libel.  I really detest folks like this.

Here is a thought, now that you have the unit, I would photo everything about it and take precise measurements and make a drawing.  I'll bet your machine shop guy can make you one from scratch for a hell of a lot less, maybe about $200 including materials and labor.  So, if you get your money back you might even be money ahead on the deal.

If you paid by credit card, file a complaint and they will instantly take your money out of his account pending investigation. (He has no choice in the matter)  If paypal, I would file a complaint there also.

Best of luck on this.

Bill