SM expose'

[Grumpy]

@grumpy, spherics posted a gold mine and one of the most lucid theories and starting points to go by i've seen on this forum, and you originally baulked at it. and you've got grumption to scold us for requesting a few diagrams? c'mon dude lighten up.

Well, if you had read the whole thread, you would see that I reversed my position towards Spherics 180 degrees, I ate Crow and issued a humble apology - I deleted all derogatory posts towards him - I asked to be mentored - all to no avail.

Read into that - if you will.  Let me spell is out to you - He freakin' knew stuff that was only known by a handful on the planet and had you all done some real damn work - you would have noticed the wisdom of Spheric's speak.

So many come here talking out the side of their ass - but they don't know squat.  Arogant pricks that are "learned" - but know nothing.  When you stop an experiment because the results are so far out on freakin' left field that you have absolutley no basis for them and your reality is now in question - then you got something to talk about - but you'll never see that sort of thing posted here - and if you did, no one would notice as they are to caught up in the freakin' drama...

@HD - if you are Freedomfuel - I hope you burn in freakin' Hell.

[Michelinho]

Hi all,

About the secrecy during development of a theory or how to come up ahead of others in a not so moral way.

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/Geometric_Nucleus.pdf

This is a real life event.

Take care,

Michel

[powerunlimited]

HEYDUDE your a funny guy,I get a few good laughs
in this forum and sometimes some usefull information,Jack Durban delivered
some real good hammer blows while he was here,ha ha .Anyway you are right in the time line of Steven Mark
making the tpu,I would think he discovered how to build it much later
and then he didn't care about Spheric Labs.Jack Durban stated  if he had discoved how to
  to make a tpu he would have tried to cash in on it immediately,thats was why he thinks
someone else invented it,hes theory,steven mark  got it from someone, then it took him a long time to duplicate it, I would tend to think he invented it before 1997 and  mostlikely around 1994.
From what Jack durban has said  Steven Marks greed would force him to cash in on it quickly.
You have to keep one thing in mind this device is mostlikely a combination of simple electronic principles
and an unknown effect ,its built around this effect ,my theory.Jack Durban did'nt know how to make one or even guess how to make one
its as simple as that,thats not to say Jack is stupid in fact he is a very smart guy,this uses things that an electronic engineer would'nt think of ,my theory also.I believe the circuit used controls the power level, the tpu is capable of releasing a hell of  a lot more power,he changes a few parts to increase the power level or decrease it,just a theory.
I get a kick when people point to the video and say its phony,its a come on people,the investor would not pay a cent with out having there engineers check everything for fraud.
Jack Durban states it was a zoo with investors and there engineer's going and coming.Heydude
have you seen that video on google it starts with the big tpu cut up,if you watch it that
Prof. Schinzinger is in it,its crappy video,one part shows what looks like him hooking a current meter in series with a light bulb going to a small tpu
he was measuring current,Steven Mark turns the tpu on with a speaker magnet,after that he checks voltage.In another scene he has a coil hooked to
a meter using it to measure the magnetic field around the big tpu.I agree with you,what Prof. Schinzinger wrote would be usefull. 
In real life each one of you would check the current /voltage of each tpu also bring your own bulbs and meters
you would check everything for fraud ,so don't you think the engineers did'nt do the same.

[poynt99]

Well, if you had read the whole thread, you would see that I reversed my position towards Spherics 180 degrees, I ate Crow and issued a humble apology - I deleted all derogatory posts towards him - I asked to be mentored - all to no avail.

Read into that - if you will.  Let me spell is out to you - He freakin' knew stuff that was only known by a handful on the planet and had you all done some real damn work - you would have noticed the wisdom of Spheric's speak.

So many come here talking out the side of their ass - but they don't know squat.  Arogant pricks that are "learned" - but know nothing.  When you stop an experiment because the results are so far out on freakin' left field that you have absolutley no basis for them and your reality is now in question - then you got something to talk about - but you'll never see that sort of thing posted here - and if you did, no one would notice as they are to caught up in the freakin' drama...

@HD - if you are Freedomfuel - I hope you burn in freakin' Hell.

oh ye of little faith---of course i read the whole thread.

the point which you missed was and still is---back off.

if i or anyone else requests a diagram or further explanation, it's because it makes sense to. not because i'm phishing, or trolling or whatever other bs conspiracy theory reason that is given. it's simply so i can understand better what the person is doing and so i can verify their results by experiment if i want to.

leave it at that please.

[wattsup]

@GK

Thanks for the poem. Every word was right on.

@Grumpy

I've seen the colored sparks as quoted.....

"I am surprised that my first relay is still holding out because I have seen many types of contact sparks being either orange (regular dc sparks), blue and a very plasmid green, with some ozone production to boot."

Here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3972.msg79563.html#msg79563

@c0mster is probably telling himself, "Now I remember why I left this forum". lol

@HD

Sort of feel there is an arrogance there that has no place here if you plan on doing some serious unbiased analysis. I'd cool it.

@powerunlimited

I remember way back when I was the editor of a small monthly newsletter for the Canadian Business Entrepreneurs Club - Montreal chapter, where every month we would have meetings with our inventor members and investors for a night of show-and-tell networking. Believe me, when you show something that would have such a market demand, investment is very easy. Especially when you only first show a FTPU and then say, "This is a crude device that needs some GOOD money to perfect and polish BUT I will always keep the secret of how it works until it is fully ready". While most investors will tell you to shove it if you keep the secret to yourself, others WILL AGREE to this and are always willing to put money in on the ground floor, but eventually, they will want to see some results. The OTPU comes in next to buy some more time and money. But what happens when the development does not really happen and you want more money. You hire a guy like @JD to find a new slant. Part of that slant is you buy AC printed DC bulbs and put them in AC boxes. I feel SM was more concerned about his David Copperfield acts which to him seemed as legitimate playing of tricks for a treat. Money.

@Mannix

Mannix, Mannix.

Why is it that anytime someone wishes to analyze the veracity of these videos and devices, that the only thing you can say is....
"and is merely expressing his frustration and failure here." How simpleton can you get.

What about the questions @HD asked you. How come no answers?

You see, in my perspective, if this was a real life investigation into a potential fraudulent act, you yourself would be witness and/or suspect No. 2.

So if you wish, I have some questions myself, but you are surely not going to like some of them or even answer them. But let's take a chance here and see if we can get some headway.

You see, the only real person that would be most helpful here is you yourself as the one who posted all these e-mails that (supposedly) came from SM. But curiously, very little is known about how and why such was.

1) Did you ever speak in person with SM. Describe when and the circumstances.
2) Did you ever get an e-mail from SM that was not posted on the forum.
3) Please explain how you can absolutely certify that the origin of these e-mails is from SM.
4) Please provide a screen shot of an original e-mail from SM showing the ip address.
5) How did you first ever learn about SM.
6) Did you learn about SM before or after you were a forum member at overunity.com.

7) Please explain your opinion on the following.

Since the story says SM was muzzled by Top Government Levels (TGL), and they were adamant that if he ever spilled the beans he would be arrested or worst, then please explain how they let him send all those e-mails to you. If the TGL had copies of e-mails and web pages of posts, they obviously new very well that you were the one putting these e-mails on the forum. So tell me, why do you think the TGL would simply let you go about your business, receiving e-mails, posting SM's "e-mails" on the forum, hence aiding and abetting  SM in the very thing the TGL warned against. So why do you think the TGL just let you do all these posts when logic would surmise that you would have been arrested and taken away in a flash, or at least, your home would have been ransacked from top to bottom, computer removed, threats, etc., etc. I mean what kind of all mighty protection do you have, for all these supposedly TGL ILLEGAL postings. No... let me guess. You're just a lucky guy. Please explain.

8) Is it possible that you were tricked by former SM investors that had one of them pass on as SM after they leaked the videos, to then start mining the brains of some smart people to try and figure out how SM did his devices, assuming that the investors also truly believed the TPU's were real, or put another way, the investors still do not or cannot accept that SM faked the whole thing from day one.

If you want to be helpful, please answer the above 8 questions while I prepare 8 more. If you are serious of this endeavor, you will realize why it is important to answer these questions. On the other hand, if you had something to hide or had been working with a different hidden agenda, it is understandable that you would not want to answer these questions. Either way, the questions will remain and speak for themselves.

I can understand that if you were just used by SM, or whoever passed himself off as SM, to unknowingly take part in a now more then obvious trickery or brain mining program, that you would not want to be seen as such a fool. Who would?

Admitting the obvious doubts would not mean the end of the over unity endeavor for a working TPU, on the contrary. It would reinforce the effort into a new and more realistic direction, since we would then know that SM never made these units work, so we can stop trying to make this work his way and start making it work in other ways. Major difference. When the seed itself is corrupted, don't count on the plant to bare the fruit.