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[ramset]

That old rascal power factor!!  well they claim to be petitioning their government [Austrailia] to make this mod LAW
Chet

[giantkiller]

Re: rotoverter and panacea

Things get tricky if you haven't considered power factor in your measurements. I'm a little familiar with that site and their claims. There are lots of people trying to replicate, but COP> 18 should create a self runner with room to spare. This should be big big news.

Yep, With all the hungry OU people around here this would overrun/override all threads here by now.

--giantkiller.

[Grumpy]

Repeat request:

Can anyone dig up any new info on C.Earl Ammann? Sounds TPU like device but only very short old story on line.

                                                                      Mysterious Invention

"The Hubbard Energy Transformer" brought back to me exciting memories of another inventor. In 1918, while doing painting and decorating, I was hired to paper several bedrooms in a large two-story house. While at this work I went down to the back porch to pick up some materials. I happened to glance at the light meter and saw it was not moving.

I opened the fuse box and saw the main power fuses had been removed. It took only a minute to make sure the line had not been taped beyond the meter.

The only member of the family at home at the time was a young man in his early twenties [C. Earl Ammann]. I asked him, "Earl, where do you get your juice? I noticed it does not come from the power lines".

"Come along and I?ll show you", he said. He led me up to the attic. He placed some steel bars on a work table and picked up a coil which looked like a loose coupler. After placing the coils on the steel rods he touched the opposite terminal. The bell rang with great force, and there was quite a spark, too.

I picked up the coils to make sure there was no contact with other appliances. I could see right through them. There was no battery inside. The bell rang just as vigorously. The wire was iron.

In the basement Earl had what he called an Activator Transformer, the size of two fists, which had to be within 10 miles of the radius of the generator coils. The activator was not in contact with any visible wires or appliances. It was activated by the electric currents which surge around the earth and activate the compass needle. By cutting into these currents, earl said, we can obtain unlimited power.

A year later Earl demonstrated his Cosmo Electric Generator in Denver. He had placed two copper spheres on the front fenders of his car in pace of the headlights. From these copper spheres he obtained enough power to drive that old jalopy all over Denver as reported in the Denver Post at the time.

While Earl was demonstrating his invention all over the streets of Denver, the power had been cut off in the foothills. In spite of this, when he went to Washington DC shortly afterward to try to obtain a patent on his Cosmo Electric Generator, he found that charges had been filed against him claiming he had a device to steal power from the power lines.

K. H. Isselstein,
Spokane, WA

Additional article:

Denver Post (Monday, August 8, 1921)


Denver Man Invents Generator That
Takes Electricity From Air & Propels Automobile
Believes He has Apparatus that will Revolutionize Power & Lighting & Gives it a Test on Streets of City

Has an invention been made that will revolutionize the electrical world? Will the apparatus conceived by a Denver man light buildings, run automobiles, battleships, power plants by the unlimited supply of electricity in the air? Denver electrical experts say "yes", and the young inventor, C. Earl Ammann , Monday demonstrated his invention by attaching it to an old automobile and running it about the city.

An atmospheric generator is the name of Ammann?s apparatus. It is a compact, cylindrical object with two small brass spheres protruding from the top. Inside, Ammann says, is an arrangement of steel wires and minerals, so fixed as to draw the electricity from the air, condense it and utilize it for driving power.
The automobile which Ammann used for his demonstration Monday was the body and chassis of an electric vehicle. There are said to be no batteries in the car. It propelled itself with remarkable speed at the touch of the foot, climbed hills and glided through a maze of traffic under easy control.

Careful To Conceal His Invention ~

When asked by skeptical persons if he had a storage battery concealed inside of the power cylinder, Ammann said:

"As badly as I would like to show the inside of my invention, I can?t, for I have not yet obtained the patent rights. It would be exposing the result of seven years of work to open the cylinder. I leave for Washington this week to obtain the patent rights. When I return I will gladly show everything and I can only say, wait until then and time will tell.

  "I have bucked every law of the textbooks to perfect the invention. It appears on the order of the wireless telephone but it is decidedly different, except that the electricity is derived from the air. It will run anywhere except under water.  

The automobile is only a simple test. The generator will light buildings, do away with steam turbines, and, in fact, propel any kind of engine motor".

J. N. Davis, the proprietor of the Davis Electric Garage company, at 921 East 14th Avenue, and one of the oldest electrical men in Denver, made a thorough study of the generator.

Electrical Man Has Faith In It ~

"I believe that Mr. Ammann has at least made the invention which will revolutionize power", Mr. Davis said. "Of course, we don?t know what is inside of the generator and the inventor would be foolish to show us. We have long known that certain minerals exist, which if properly arranged together, would furnish power. That, in substance, according to the blueprints of the invention, is the basis of the whole thing.

"If the generator has been perfected to the extent that it will propel an automobile, the rest of its work is assured. It will be the greatest invention of the age. The electricity obtained from the air, first passing through the generator, would be available for any use". So impressed was Mr. Davis that he offered the use of his building for Mr. Ammann?s headquarters. Ammann, who is but 28 years old, came to Denver from Spokane, Washington. He is an electrical engineer and lives at the Argonaut Hotel.

From what little is available.  It sounds as though this device is able the pull energy from the Earth's ambiant aether field (which is kinetic - and not static - by the way).  Whatever the "minerals" do in combination with the steel wire sounds like the big secret.  I have heard that various fields of force - such as gravity - can be pulled in - but no one will say how this is accomplished.  It may be just a matter of "slowing it down" and that by doing so, it collects and the energy builds up.  Maybe his minerals are magnetite out of his back yard - LOL!

[ramset]

HD @ you tube 'rotoverter energy saving device'  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8060034688864982719&hl=en 
                                               3/4 hp drill press that runs on 120 watt solar panel towards end of vid
                                                                   Chet

[HEYDUDE]

Chet

Thanks for the rotoverter video link. I've watched quite a few rotoverter video's but not seen that one. Good luck to those guys., I wish them success. I will make a few comments and am open to correction.

1) Smaller, cheaper OEM motors naturally draw more idle current because manufacturers underdesign them and allow more waste amps in the form of heat, i.e thinner wire, more Ohms resistance, less efficient magnetic structure.

2) Larger expensive industrial motors (more efficient magnetic structure, more iron, thicker copper) will run more efficiently than the cheap motors because they are hardly loaded by something like a drill press load, whereas the cheap motor is closer to its rated power.

3) If you can afford the larger motor, by all means put it on your machinery, it will be a savings in electricity in the long run to your customer, but you will have to absorb the initial cost of the motor or  pass it on to your customer if you intend to stay in business..

4) Shown are fairly unrealistic loads considering the motor sizes.

5) Yes, you can reduce the idle current with a capacitor resonant setup, but what happens when the load increases close to maximum? This is not addressed.

Kudos to these guys anyway. I remember doing similar research with my three phase drill press setup a long time ago. Worked fine if you didn't try to really load the press.

I still want to see their self runner.