What exactly is a Joe Cell?

[Electrodiode]

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OK what the heck does a Joe cell do?  From what i have read it has some very interesting claims.  But when i think about it, it just produces hydrogen and that's what the car is running off of.  But if the other claims work it does way more producing more energy once it is charged. So what is exactly a hydrogen generator or a ether absorbing device (once charged).

thanks for your time this has really confused me.

[Shanti]

Well I think how exactly this device works, noone knows, not even Joe. This is obviously also the reason why the replication quote is so low, as you have no idea what factors are important...
It is definitely not a device to run a car on hydrogen!
The simple reason for that is, that the gases produced by the cell will not be used in the engine during ignition. There's no connection from the cell to the inlet of the engine! You just connect the cell to a blind plug on the engine case.
And if the cell is charged you even do not connect it anymore to a power supply to do electrolysis. Only maybe for a minute per day, to make sure, the cell doesn't discharge...

Addition: The work of Wilhelm Reich (orgone accumulator) and especially the cosmogony of Walter Russell shed some light, and have an explanation how this cell works...(actually this "effect" also has already been described by Schauberger in his water-thread experiments [in Implosion No 128 he even writes, that with this principle one could replace gaz with water!])

Additional Addition (an excerpt from Schauberger explaining):

Das hei?t, fuhr ich fort, dieser Spannungsausfall baut aus Luft z.B. Wasser in sekund?rer Wirkungsfolge auf, wodurch infolge einer etwa 2000-fachen Volums-verkleinerung das "organische" Vakuum, die beste und billigste Zug- oder Aufsogkraft urentsteht.
Mit diesem Spannungstoff-ausfall kann man aber auch Wasser in Luft blitzschnell verwandeln, wodurch der "organische" ?berdruck infolge in diesem Fall etwa die 2000-fache Volums-vermehrung, die beste und billigste Eruptiv = nat?rliche Aufschubkraft urentsteht.

I will try a translation (just roughly):

This means, I continued, this potential-(drop) constructs out of air for example water in a secondary effect, whereas a 2000times volume decrease the "organic" vaccum, the best and cheapest pull or suction-force, will be developed.
But it is also possible with this potential-(drop) to immediately alter water back to air, whereby the resulting "organic" overpressure in this case about the volume increase of 2000times, is the best and cheapest eruptiv=natural pressure force which will be built.

[Shanti]

DUP

[Shanti]

Well to explain it simpler, how I think the cell works:

Tesla already wrote in his autobiography (My Inventions) of an incident which really baffled him. He was out and there were some really heavy rainclouds in the air, but it didn't rain. But as soon as the first lighting stroke happened, it immediately started to rain.

The second important aspect is the work of Wilhelm Reich and his Cloudbusters. Where he showed that it is easily possible to create or dissolve clouds very easily.
And if you once experimented with joe cells and do it correctly, you will immediately see, that if the cell lid is open it will start to change the weather in the vicinity very fast. If you charge it negative (like one does usually do in a joe cell), clouds will disappear. If you charge it positive, clouds will appear.

What does this mean? Well as due to my observations, the clouds disappear because the liquid in the air (cloud) will go to the gaseous state and therefore the clouds disappear. And if you do it the other way, the gaseous water in the air will condese out and clouds will appear.
BTW: The joe cell works much better in dissolving the clouds than in generating, this is due to the geometric configuration of the cell, which is made for negative charging...
Why this works like that is easily explained in the cosmogony of Walter Russell. But it would go too far to describe it here. If you're interested you should get a book of him.

Well what now happens in the car?
The air in the vicinity of the car will become charged so that it can contain more water in the gaseous state. The air then comes into the cylinder. Now already before TDC, the spark plug will fire (joe cells need an advanced firing). Now happens exactly the effect described by Tesla, namely the water will immediately condense out, and a suction force will develop. Then due to the fact, that the engine is still heavily charged, the water and air in the cylinder are now also again charged, so that the water goes back to the gaseous state. This will now develop a pressure force. (this is exactly what Schauberger described).
But due to the fact, that there is always a waste spark in a 4 stroke engine, at the point where the air is pushed again out of the car, a second spark is happening, so that again the water will condense out. Therefore you usually see a white fog coming out of the exhaust, when a car is running on a joe cell. If the whole car is so much charged, that the water in the air again gets charged before its coming out of the exhaust, you would not see any fog...
It actually should be possible to even make a completely closed engine with a joe cell, so that always the same water /air is in the cylinder. then you could also use the second waste spark as an actual also driving spark.
Well, I hope it became clear, what I meant.
And as I said before, this is just my opinion how the cell works...

[Electrodiode]

So basically A joe cell is this

I wonder if there way to adapt this to something else besides a engine, a more direct way to generate electricity?
And just to make sure the joe cell you have to keep charged from time to time but it still holds a charged when you take the positive lead off the device? And how come there is no board on the forum for the Joe cells? or did i miss it? Oh and one more thing it sounds to me that the joe cell creates as thunder storm in side the container.  Because there was something i read that you connect the hose to the intake ( the carburetor) and it creates low pressure inside the container and there is build up of electrons.

thanks