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Overunity Machines Forum



Miniaturized Electrolysis Chamber

Started by jadaro2600, August 06, 2008, 10:49:01 AM

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jadaro2600

I created this small electrolysis cell designed with two 0.5mm graphite pencil leads protruding from a transparent eraser canister.  Graphite rods are held apart by a nonconductive hollow tube taken from the stem of a cuetip.

Not the most conventional setup, but I was testing validity. Power source is from a model train set, providing AC and DC, in this case, DC is being used @ 17 volts.  AC produced no noticeable results.

Picture in picture has a 3x5 card in the background for scale.

I only broke one rod doing this  :P

ramset

NICE!! you only broke one rod? you should be a surgeon [steady hands]   Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

scraven

you just made my day.... its so cute    :D

HHOwanabe

Wow!  This is exactly what I was thinking about when I went to bed last night!  Is that ESP or what?  I had a little bit different idea in the construction, but I was thinking "small".  I was thinking of 3 or 4 cells (a cell being 2 plates, one (+) and one (-)) in that small tube.  Call the tube a "Water Fuel Cell" (WFC).  Construction would be similar to a fuse, with the cell plates suspended between the WFC caps.  Water would be fed in from one end, and HHO would come out the other end.  I don't know what size WFC would be required to provide adequate spacing or what kind of electrical power would be required to produce adequate HHO, (I don't even know if it would work at all) but one of these WFC's would be used on each cylinder of an ICE as part of the "fuel injection system".  This would allow an engine to run soley on water (converted to HHO for input at the cylinder).  Anybody have any ideas?  Think outside the box folks!  Remember, HHO gas will escape through a very small opening where water will not.

jadaro2600

HHOwanabe,

I have a similar idea, it involves replacing the fuel line with a graphite tube charged as + and an inner isolated / insulated core charged as -, there would be a small gap and as water went through this area, it would be split to HHO.  The problem is material integrity, holding a setup like that would mean lots of insulating pipes, and the rate of flow may mean extending the surface area beyond a reasonable distance, as well as the possibility of backfiring through the sparkplug injector.

This goes along the similar lines as removing the inlet valve and replacing the spark plug with a spark plug / fuel injector combo - one that split water to HHO while injecting and firing when the injected HHO had been evacuated from the electrolysis chamber.

The reason I consider graphite is because it doesn't introduce oxides of iron into the engine or electrolysis chamber - this could possibly ruin the oil and make what you save in gas you loose in frequency of oil changes.

Has anyone actually gotten an engine to run on HHO and water vapor?  - if the idea is to switch to something that doesn't involve carbon based fuels, then the engine would have to run on internal combustion of HHO along with H2O so that the HHO alone would not burn the pistons up.


ESP? maybe, I built this only 30 minutes before I posted the image.  Maybe you were asleep at the same time? :P