Varnishing Tubes

[gazzzwp]

Hi all

Just reading through John Kent's summary of his experiments with the Stan Meyer Design.  His conclusions are largely the same as mine; that the resonant frequency does not seem to exist, and no special effects can be observed with the fuel cell.Just a trickle of gas at best, and the frequency has little or no effect.

John Kent does mention however that varnishing the electrodes (stainless steel tubes) to create an insulation layer ('idealised capacitor' in Meyer language) may well be the answer.

Anyone tried this yet?

Here is John Kent's summary:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/moonshadow/New_Folder/water_as_fuel.htm

[gazzzwp]

In fact something that both Lawton and Ravi (Ravzz?) said a while ago makes more sense in the light of this.

They speak of the need to condition the tubes over a period of time until a white film appears on the inner tube.

I bet this white film acts as a partial insulator. 

I have been trying to get my tubes to behave as a capacitor, which will never happen while there is a path of conduction between the tubes.

Should have seen this earlier.

[gazzzwp]

Well I know have a fully modified WFC. The inner (negative) tubes have been coated with adhesive backed plastic film (inside and outside), and the associated negative connections have been insulalted using instant gasket (silicon rubber).

The result is dissapointing so far. With or without the step up transformer using PWM switched DC and varying the frequency, the gas output is a sad trickle a best.

I have included the diode and tried various combinations of inductance. Yes it produces gas, but minimally so. My system is now an 'idealised capacitor'.

I really have no idea where to go from here so any suggestions welcome. I intend to borrow my neighours scope again soon to see if resonance is occuring. Even if it is though, without a good gas output it counts for very little.

So until then.........

[Yucca]

Hi gazzzwp,

As you've already built a cell, you should try conditioning it properly, good luck with it! 

good doc with conditioning details:
http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Ravi%20Cell.pdf

conditioning video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx2uEsbTt8Y

[professor]

Kind of had the same thoughts and the more I listened to Stan Meyers videos and  comment the more confusing it gets.
But perhaps that was intentionally.
I agree that we are not dealing with an ideal capacitor and we have resistance in form of water across the plates.
Apply 1000 volts at even 1 amp or more you will not see that voltage across the tubes  but you have produced a inefficient water heater.
I have tried insulating the outer tube per attached Picture (Heatshrink)  to isolate its outer conductive body  from the water.
I relied on that the inner negative tube  after conditioning would provide me with its natural coating. As you can see I achieved an auburn color not the white coating that everyone is talking about.I don't know what it means. I have been using ozonated distilled Water with no additives at various voltages an frequencies.
My next move was to insulate the outer casing of the inner tube as the centre of the inner tube is sealed.
The Question is what to use?
And at what Voltage would you like to have it avalange?
I still think that frequency plays a major role.
Whether the tubes are tuned to a certain resonance to mechanically ring is not certain but the notch cut in one of Meyers tubes gives that impression.
Or is it another way to mislead us?
professor

Hi all

Just reading through John Kent's summary of his experiments with the Stan Meyer Design.  His conclusions are largely the same as mine; that the resonant frequency does not seem to exist, and no special effects can be observed with the fuel cell.Just a trickle of gas at best, and the frequency has little or no effect.

John Kent does mention however that varnishing the electrodes (stainless steel tubes) to create an insulation layer ('idealised capacitor' in Meyer language) may well be the answer.

Anyone tried this yet?

Here is John Kent's summary:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/moonshadow/New_Folder/water_as_fuel.htm