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Emulsifying Brown's Gas

Started by goldenequity, August 24, 2008, 05:39:29 PM

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goldenequity

Take a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kpswB6Ae-o

It's a great example of "degasification" with ultrasonics....
I believe it happens with the higher frequencies.
But they also use ultrasonics for gasification.... and I assume it
would be at the lower frequencies... enough to cause cavitation and the
micro-mixing of fluids and molecules without "frying" the bubbles....
I am just poking around the edges of all this..... but I DO know that shear mixing can
work as well.  We need to try everything.... but start with whatever we can get our hands on. ;D



goldenequity

@ Loner... True!
@ Wings
Thanks for all the Hydrosonic links!
@ all
you can see Jim Griggs Hydrosonic Pump demonstrated here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBxpn6odtcA

I see the Hydrosonic pump as an awesome machine...and primarily a heater...which is how they are marketing and applying it.
It is even capable of sonoluminescence where you have interplay between sound energy and light through cavitation effect.

Whereas much effort has been spent in getting rid of the effects of cavitation (i.e. Submarine propulsion), Griggs took advantage
and amplified/encouraged cavitation to the point of generating/releasing heat "inside" the liquid by stretching the H (hydronium ion) and
the OH (hydroxyl ion) into both near (and actual) separation/disassociation from one another.... the result releasing heat from the "collision"
of these ions.  The effect being that the metal components stay cool while the liquid gets hot!

By comparison.... I look at the Hydrosonic Pump as being on the scale of a LASER....
whereas I think all WE really need to do the job is a Hi-Powered flashlight.

On a fundamental level, I hope what is developed here is a modest and effective procedure/device that can be replicated in "everyman's" backyard.

In its most basic model:
Taking the Brown's Gas from a simple electrolytic cell with the output into semi-viscous fossil fuel liquid(s), where it is agitated to a  micron level and trapped as hydrogen and oxygen in a stable emulsion either in a batch or flow configuration.

Let's just make the creamy liquid and try burning it!  ;D


goldenequity

OK..... Here's the OFFICIAL goldenequity experiment #1 (unpatented!  ;D)

1. Connect 1/2" (fuel/solvent tolerant!) tubing to the input and output ports of a closed impeller driven pump (mag pumps are preferred) and then to a 1 gallon container so as to circulate liquid(s) in a closed loop back into the container.  **Closed impellers have much closer tolerances to the pump cavity and develop much greater pressure than "open" impeller (trash)  pumps.  The bigger the pump the better.

2. On the input tubing side, splice a 1/2"X1/2"X1/4" "tee" fitting which will serve as a venturi for introduction of gas (or liquid!). Attach a 1/4" ball valve to control the venturi.

3. Fill (measure) the gallon container with only "enough" #2 Diesel to charge the system loop for recirculation.

4. Pour entire liquid content into duplicate container and mark fluid level; set aside.

5. Re-pour liquid back into pump container.

6. Attach valved venturi line to the output of an HHO cell.

7. Turn pump on and circulate diesel.

8. Try introducing the HHO via ventui by bleeding the valve open slightly for 10 minutes. Observe effects.

9. Try HHO at 1LPM for 10 minutes. Observe effects.

10. Add 3-10 drops of liquid detergent (observe etc. bla bla)

11. Add 1oz of distilled water to 1 gallon container. (ditto observe)

12. Pour finish contents into the duplicate container and mark "new" fluid level of emulsion.

13. Measure difference in levels/calculate liquid displacement of trapped gas.

14. Try the emulsion in a gas and/or diesel small engine!

Oh yeah.... capture this on video and youtube it so we can all hypothesize and have fun with you!  ;D

goldenequity

btw... most pumps are water pumps with seals NOT rated for solvents. The seals will suffer from running diesel.
either consider the pump a "contribution" to Science  :) and prolong it's life by flushing with water/soap between experiments;
or use a Mag pump.... however, a Mag pump is ONLY an open impeller design..... which will never give us the pressures (or cavitation!) of a closed impeller.
Some pumps have better seals than others to withstand corrosion, Ph, solvents etc..... if buying a new pump.....look for Viton or EPDM seals.  ;)