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Overunity Machines Forum



Emulsifying Brown's Gas

Started by goldenequity, August 24, 2008, 05:39:29 PM

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goldenequity

Exploding this stuff with plasma is definitely on the menu Chris.
I've extended an invite to a fellow HHOer who has a good size Ultrasonic transducer to play with.
Will see if he wants to play with this.....
I think a high-speed mechanical shear mixer (even without the Nanomizer opposing magnets)
will get us down the road.

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Quote from: goldenequity on September 01, 2008, 05:38:32 PM
I think a high-speed mechanical shear mixer (even without the Nanomizer opposing magnets)
will get us down the road.

I tried this quickly already, and it work much better than the ultrasonic.

The material I use is a syringe, I attach a drill such that the plunger mix the water/oil inside the barrel. The result is mixed air/water/oil and igniting it produce a pop and flash. Leaving the mix to stand for a while and it tend to start separating again.

Not designed to do such thing of course ;D just didnt wanna start machining parts only to find it doesnt work.

Once I get the plasma going, Ill run the small 26cc engine I have on normal fuel then inject the water/fuel mix as it run. The size of the fuel tubing would perfectly join with the syringe I have, containing the mix.

Ill join it with a T-piece, run the engine on normal fuel, let it warm up, block the fuel comming from the fuel tank, then slowly inject the mixture from the syringe into the fuel line. Let see how it goes :D

goldenequity

@ Pese thx for your collection!
@Chris
Thanks for your continued interest/efforts.... that's pretty ingenious! Let us know how it works!

If I've learned anything so far, is that simply mixing water and Diesel is not going to get us where we want to go.
The water will not stay mixed and will separate (unless a surfactant is added.)

But EVEN if you do manage to mix water.... the droplets, no matter how small, will have the negative effect of "cooling" off the burn,
and reduce over all efficiency of the engine.

What we need is someone to violently mix Brown's Gas (not water) and Diesel (or other FF)....

the trapped BUBBLES will do several things (the smaller the better):
1. stay in solution and stabilize the emulsion for a long useful period (1 year?)
2. add to the combustion and increase the efficiency of the burn
3. displace the expensive liquid with "free" gas
4. almost eliminate hydrocarbon emissions

I'm hoping someone, somewhere can easily do this and report their outcome to this thread.
The questions remaining would be:
1. can you effectively mix the two under simple atmospheric pressure? Do they stay mixed?
2. if not.... we need to mix under some degree of pressure and get the bubble size as small as possible.
3. then try injecting emulsion  into both a small diesel engine AND gas engine

I just saw an ad on T.V. this afternoon for Diesel Magic... or something like that.... they want 46 cents per gallon.... it's probably water and a surfactant!!!
The testimonial was some guy in front of a Ford Truck saying "I got 20 miles to the gallon!!"

I'm even starting to like the looks of a creamy white fuel....  :o

goldenequity

Thanks Art..... :)
Sounds like the Bill Williams design.... look like this?


You never know ..... until you find out  ;D