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Zero current leakage?Need some input

Started by jdcmusicman, August 27, 2008, 03:29:30 AM

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Has anyone successfully built a cell (drycell or flooded cell ) that has no current leakage ?
What I mean by that is have plates with no holes sealed on all 4 edges.

I am very curious to find out..I been reading and reading on several different forums and
watching videos on youtube ,and one thing that I have found common is the problem with
current leaking around the plates in a bath cell and leakage thru the holes in a drycell.
And from everything I have learned and observed is that current leakage causes heat problems.
I have found this true with my own experiments with electrolysis.

Another thing that I have learned from reading, watching and experimenting on my own, is that
the less current leakage , the more efficient the cell, and if that is the case , Why waste time
on trying different plate configurations and sizes and so on.(Do not get me wrong,plate wiring configurations,
plate size,metal type, neutrals and so on do play a small part in all this)

The whole thing I am getting at is having 100 % electrical efficiency.
Unless I am wrong Those with more knowledge may prove me wrong (I welcome any and all feedback)
I also know that there will probably never be a 100% efficient cell as a whole.
But I do believe (in my own mind, in theory) that a cell could be 100% electrically efficient. 
If no electrical current is leaking around the edges or thru holes,the overall performance of
the cell would be greatly improved..
Electrical efficiency would result in more electricity going to gas production rather than heating water.
For example :  say you have 12v 20amps 18 plate 3x5 in open bath producing 1.5 lpm that can only run for
                      around 2 hrs or then the water is so hot it starts melting your container.(I Have experienced this)
My idea  : say that same configuration  with no holes with no edges in water , having the electrolyte only between
                the plates ,this would force all the electricity only THRU the plates and not around them.( which a drycell does
                this but everyone I have seen has at least 2 holes in every plate ,resulting in current leakage, some have more
                than 2 ) Ok if this is the case you possibly (in theory) could produce 2-2.5 lpm because most of the current is going
                toward gas production......
Well enough of my babbling .I would really like some input on this subject ....
I am planning to build such a device when I get the extra cash to do so ....still want some input tho..
MY IDEA
Is to build a 6"x6" 31 plate drycell design       
WITH NO HOLES ,neoprene gaskets around the edges, 1/2" acrylic on both ends
(Some of you may be thinking how is the gas going to come out and water go in )
Good question LOL...I have a idea in my head & on a couple scribbles on paper
I plan to build, if Possible(still just an idea) a top that will mount down over the plates
and the way it is in my head it will go just below the the plate tops so it will between the plates.
and there will be a slit of about 1/32" the length of the plate .total width of it will be 1/8" cause thats
what my plate spacing is going to be ...the 1/32" slit will be where the gas flow is going to go out..
so I have 31 plates and 32 1/8 sections with the slit that gas will be released into .They will all meet up
in the middle of my piece and then go out one hose one..
Going to the same thing on the bottom for water to return to the unit..

My whole idea is to have  gas flow out between each individual plate .
Each one will be independent of the other , SO NO CURRENT LEAKAGE...
Therefore increased efficiency , and increased gas production ,that will hopefully out perform any
cell  as far as  MMW is concerned....

Not for gain to me but to progress the the production of hho ...
Thanks for reading this... IF its all crap , just tell me and I will think of something new .....

YES I have became and electrolysis addict .....have nice day   jdcmusicman