Aliens are coming October 14th 2008 Galactic Federation

[Eden]

we have been living in a society where poverty consciousness is dominating.
this was created (by illuminatti or the like) to dominate humanity and control every aspect of society.

poverty consciousness creates fear,
fear creates greed, war etc. we know al that!

in a society where infinite abundance is prevailing there is no fear, no greed, no war...
where there is no lack or limitation
and this society is about to unfold in the new golden age.
you just have to want it  to happen.

and yes Hans, by giving power to lack and limitation thoughts, you influence the universe in that way
guess what could happen if everyone thinks abundance!

[bluedemon]

Hi Hans,
i'm relatively new here, but i read this forum a long time. I respect you for the answers and insides you give and gave. You have a highly scientific way to look on things, however i don't agree with you that 'it' cant be changed cause greed reigns. You have probably changed people in your environment to see things like you do, so do all here i believe. That makes me confident that there is a chance that we can live like Sparks said. Outside the state/political borders because humans aren't as bluedemon said different in behaviour - the're different in teaching and following 'man-given-rules'. At the end of the day everyone wants the best for their families with the less work to do for that. Its all about morals and ethics. So therefor the Love-Things that are said by the Entities through the Channelers aren't that far of, because it involves less power if you do things you like.

Believe me when I say I really understand where you all are coming from.  This is a utopian idea that has been around for centuries and almost every man deep in his heart would love to see something like this happen, but its just a pipe dream.  Read your history books.  People have tried this over and over again and it has never worked and always ends up in more deaths and less basic necessities than they had in the previous system. 

It seems the pattern goes something like this:
   - A great idea emerges such as the one being discussed
   - Propaganda, propaganda, propaganda about how well this new system will be to get an army of followers togather.
   - An overthrow of government takes place to implement the new system
   - The new system is put in place which excludes all the current producers because they don't fit with the party's needs.
   - The factories and homes of the previous producers get stolen(nationalized) to support the party.
   - The party members by nature are not producers so the factories go to waist, the farms get neglected and the party members are more concerned with increasing their party size
   - People end up working for days only to wait in line for a single loaf of bread and anything else the party has managed to steal from the producers.  People die of starvation and overwork. But somehow the top party members always have three meals a day and all the expensive goods from foreign countries that everyone else can't afford.
   - The people realize that this was a good idea that will never work.
   - The people have a revolution and put back in place either a capitalist system where they can live a good life or they get a tyrant which is abusive but still provides for the basic necessities.

[reada]

nop - watched animalfarm yesterday again - i understand what you are saying
i dont want to put a system in place nor do i propagate a new beliefsystem

let go of the fears something can not work (watch yourself getting angry, stop it). Nothing more, nothing less. Selfconfidence. I dont need anyone to set up a party where i can subscribe. Thats a system that not works - watch usa its a farce this two party system.

In the end i would prefer a little community, selfsustainable, with all the good things of our time - meaning internet, free speech and so on (free energy would be great too thats what im here for) - and no state or Controlling organ that say what go's and what not, cause common sense says what go's and what not. I dont care about the whole - i care about me 'feeling good, doing good' to people i know. The money that gets spent on military could easily be invested in the people itself. within one generation the differences could be overcome.

anyway - this thread is for information about the october 14th thing - lets get back to the aliens cause there is something about them. There is nothing about talking each other down...

[shooter001]

This video was posted on the 30th September.  From what I can see there are crowds of people in the street all singing and waving flags while there appears to be 2 objects in the sky, one is pulsing and the other blimbs in and then out of the sky, they are huge bright objects.  I don't think one of them is the sun because a camera would show the sun as a black spot because it is too bright.  If one of the objects is the sun then what is the second?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4FDAYuqXTM

[z.monkey]

Howdy Y'all,

You can stop greed by freely giving.  Bartering is a good idea but you can't always barter what you don't have.  A better idea is to give.  When you give freely then you are creating Karmic credits.  When you have surplus Karmic credits you never are in need, everything is provided for you.  I know this law well because I live it.  When you see people around you in need, GIVE them what they need.  Then when you are in need nature and the law of Karma provide for you.  It is really simple and works really well.  You only need to understand the law of Karma and practice the law of Karma.

An example is I had a want for a mountain bike.  I had a good idea of the type of bike that I wanted and was looking to buy one.  I have always been a person that gives freely, it's just something that I do.  So after having looked for a bike for a couple of weeks and not really finding what I was looking for at a reasonable price, I found a bike that was being discarded.  Sure it had flat tires, the chain and gears were rusty, the brakes and derailers we out of adjustment, but it was free.  I spent a couple days working on it to get all of it's little problems repaired, oiled the chain and gears, adjusted the bakes and derailers, and put slime in the inner tubes.  The result is I now have a perfectly good 21 speed mountain bike with front and rear suspension (which is exactly what I wanted) which I use frequently to exercise and play.  The point is that this mountain bike was provided freely by nature and the only payment that I had to make was to repair it.

Give to the world around you, the law of Karma works...

Blessed Be...