Electrinium

[resonanceman]

In Gary's plan with the rods that need to be melted together, OR the spot welding, EITHER one could use the Brown's gas to weld or spot welt these non similar metals together so you can see if this is the right track to follow.

Welcome  jeanna

It is nice to see you here. 



About  melting  the electinium with  HHO   It might save energy and time .
But it might not . 
As  I said in a previous  post  most  of  my basic  plan  was " channeled" 
I  read a little and  picked up images .   I have to try to understand  the images  the best I can .

If  you hit some materials  with a high  voltage it will create  channels for sparks . 
The  channels are  inside the  material so  you can't see the sparks .  but you  have in effect  a multiple spark gap .

I am  thinking that  the  2 metals ( in the electinium compound ) should  form  similar  channels if the  current is high enough . 
I am  greatly  oversimplifying   it . I do think that  it  will form channels .  but  not hollow  channels  that a spark  moves through.
The  current  will find the  path of least resistance .
   
The   Electinium  compound  should  have almost  equal  resistance  throughout .  so  the  current should   choose  millions  of small  paths  from  molecule  to molecule  .
If the electrinium  compound  within those paths   is melted  and the  current  is  lowered slow enough  they should solidify  with the molecules  still in alignment. 

I am now thinking that adding  a  non  conductive powder might  be a good idea.    It would spread out the electrinium compound   and FORCE  the  current into  small streams

I just  got an image  about the  non  conductive  powder .
The  ratio  of   powder to  electriium  compound  would be important. 
There would be several times more powder than electrinium .   
The  channels  would  form  where  the current   would  find a low enough  path through the entire   junction.   
Electrinium  particles  that  were not in  a low resistance path  would in effect be  wasted ...they would  be held out of the circuit  by the  powder

I am thinking that  higher  current  would   create more channels .

I am thinking that  the voltage  applied  and the ratio of non conductive powder to electinium compound  would  at least roughly  set the  final output  voltage.. 
Another  way to set the output voltage would be the  thickness of the junction

Jeanna
if the channels  are formed easily  then  melting the  mix first might  help .
I am still leaning toward  my  original  plan because  it would be  easy to  duplicate  ...............   or automate 
The  " crucible "  for the process  becomes the  body of the battery.   
The  electrodes  become the contacts .

I came here to find out what those on this thread found out about electrinium, because I want to start a thread about the thought that keeps burning that the ancients used the baghdad "battery" to make HHO. I am wondering if that unit that was found was really filled with carbon or electrinium and connected as an electrolyzer to make a slow constant process of HHO; so, I am glad I am reading this thread, and may we will once again contribute to each other's ideas and experiments!

I am not  sure if  electinium  will do that ..........but the idea is interesting
I have found that  when an idea keeps popping up in my  head there is usually a reason for it .

gary

[nievesoliveras]

Hi!

I am glad that Jeanna joined us. I have seen her efforts in other threads. Specially Earth battery coils.
Welcome!!

Jesus

[jeanna]

Thank you for the welcome Gary and Jesus,

I am unclear what this electrinium that you are using is. Do you have a consensus about it?

I thought it was the used sludge in a dead battery. (carbon - zinc?)

The crystal battery folks have been shooting high voltage into the cells and getting interesting results.

Especially Ian. He has one or 2 that even grow in "power" over time. Interesting stuff. I have a wimhurst machine, but I haven't zapped any of my cells. My cells are all silicate based.

Anyway, I would like to know what you are thinking this electrinium is. I have been rolling the idea around all summer.

I have been thinking in terms of silicates, but in the earth galvanic battery I had the best result using spent carbon filter granules and a zinc probe. I was thinking I'd get them into a mix with zinc or a galvanized pipe etc...

I just read the part about the actual building of the electrinium cell. He says to be very careful (as zmonkey does) in making the crystal from silicates, then he has you reheat it I think 2 more times. I wonder what the effect on the charges would be if you just made the silicon crystal once and included the other ingredients in it?? and then put the charge with the resistor as it cools.

I really like the idea of the HHO as welding gas to melt the whole thing. If you can weld a rock with this stuff It is the perfect candidate IMHO to use to heat the silicates into a mass to make the.crystal - a portable alchemical furnace.

So, really my first steps will probably be HHO welder.  And, I will keep watching this thread.

I love this kind of thinking, but I can't start for a couple of weeks!! 

thank you,
jeanna

OOPS Drannom, I apologize, I misspelled your name.

[z.monkey]

Zmonkey,
What is it about silicon that makes it hard to make a crystal?
Nature forms these crystals all the time.
jeanna

Howdy Jeanna,

Most of the crystals you find in nature are silicon dioxide, an insulator (glass).  The pretty quartz crystals you see everywhere are silicon dioxide.  These are relatively easily formed, and don't need a perfect crystal form to be useful.  But pure silicon crystals are hardly ever found in nature, when they are found they are never semiconductor quality crystals.  You can find pure silicon in nature, albeit rarely.  In order for the silicon to be useful in electronics in needs to be a very high quality crystal which is totally free from cracks.  A crack breaks the lines of continuity and the conductor pathways are broken, you have open wires, doesn't conduct.  To make the silicon crystal form of the Electrinium Battery extreme care must be taken in the fabrication of the Electrinium Crystals but once they are in their final manufactured form they will be a lot more resilient because of the batteries packaging.  The crystal form is subject to cracking when it is being fabricated, but when it cooled and packaged it is hard as a rock, literally.  I still think the grown crystal form of the Electrinium Battery is going to work the best.  The problem is funding it, something I am working on...

Blessed Be...

[nievesoliveras]

Hi!

I built an HHO hydrolizer with pieces of two stainless steel cups I had. The bottle to enclose the cell was plastic and the charger I used to put it to work had a steady 10A of current. I could not get a fluent stream of HHO gas and the bottle melted from the heat generated.
I bought a PWM and used it with another charger at 2A 12V and the Hydrolizer worked a little bit and one capacitor of it blew with a very big sound covering me with pieces of paper and scaring the hell out of me. Now I am stopped.

Jesus