Electrinium

[nitinnun]

Howdy Y'all,

Nothing like a crash course in metallurgy...

Element   Symbol   Atomic Number
Lithium         Li               3
Iron              Fe              26
Copper         Cu              29
Silver           Ag              47
Tin              Sn               50
Gold            Au              79
Lead            Pb              82
Bismuth       Bi               83
Plutonium    Pu              94

Nitinnun, the bismuth iron battery would have a difference of 57, that's good.

I was thinking about something that is already this type of alloy.  Tin Lead solder might provide a experimental starting point.  A solder battery?  Tin Lead would have a difference of 32 which is even better than the silver iron battery (21).

I have been thinking about how we could polarize the alloy.  We make a small wooden trough with two solder terminals.  This trough is going to hold a slug of solder.  Use a soldering iron to melt solder into the trough, and fill the trough attaching to both solder terminals.  Then we apply a current through the slug, remelt the solder while the current is flowing, then allow the alloy to cool while the current is flowing.  This should make the solder polarized.  If the theory is correct, then the polarized solder should generate a voltage.

I am visualizing a wood trough with solder terminals that are secured to the wood so they don't move when the solder slug is melted.  We would have to make sure that the current is uninterrupted during the remelt process.

This method will not produce a product, but it may give us experimental proof of concept...

I am good at soldering, and have the right tools so I give the solder battery a try...

OK, Mo Later...

you say that copper-iron are only 3 atomic numbers apart.
yet they have worked very well for me.

bismuth-iron works better. but not THAT much better, than copper-iron


it works better with some elements, than other elements.
my experience has been that degree of diamagnetism, and degree of paramagnetism, are important factors.


tin-lead solder would not work. because rin-lead does not have enough electrical resistance.
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the middle material has to have enough electrical resistance, to keep the positive and negative terminals electrically sepperate.


it is true that polarizing something, increases electrical resistance.
but i doubt polarization would give tin-lead enough resistance, to allow it to work.

i doubt that polarization could give ANY metal alloy enough electrical resistance, to make it work.



that is another reason why we need a substance with a crystal lattice. because a crystal lattice usually has more electrical resistance.

in addition to the greater chemical stability of the crystal lattice.

and all the covalent bonds, through which to conduct magnetism from one terminal to the other terminal.

[z.monkey]

Howdy Nitinnun,

Well as far as the crystal lattice goes, there is nothing more common than silicon, or silicon dioxide.  Glass, quartz, regular sand, or pure silicon all require high temperatures to work with.  Drannom is using salts, what about sugar.  The melting point of sugar is not that far off from the melting point of soft metals.  Candy battery anyone?  Well, anyway maybe we can find some insulator which is easier to work with than silicon.

Mo Later...

[nitinnun]

i'll try making sugar-cells in my kitchen oven, later.



if we built a small brick oven,
and heated it with a hand held torch,
than we might get materials hot enough, to covalently bond.

maybe 1 substance with a lower melting point, could bond to 2 other substances with a higher melting point?


i don't know how that type of chemistry works. i'm just throwing out idea's.

[sparks]

    @Drannom

    Did you ever employ sodium chloride?   Electrodialysis equipment can give you a pretty concentrated stream of sodium and chloride ions.  Now you take these solutions and put a thin glass wall between the two solutions and slowly evaporate the water, the ions should be attracted to the glass wall.  Problem being is that the elements are so strongly charged they will react with the oxygen or hydrogen in the water and burn at some concentration.   Burning saltwater. Hmmmm  Well anyway the two cells should become strongly charged as the water is removed.  Can this charge resulting from ion seperation pump some electrons around?  Anyway this unit starts to look like Electrinium.

[Drannom]

Hi Spark

i have never try it, it seems very interesting, sounds like electrinium without alignment and without compression, sounds much more like Nitinnun's theory !

Sparks, i have a clear picture of the electrinium theory cause i have understand this link on superlight




http://blog.hasslberger.com/2007/11/milewski_describes_magnetoelec.html

also i have read many books talking about Central Sun, spiritual book


hi  z_monkey


according to the electrinium, that is not the difference in weight that we are looking for, we are looking for a difference in density

from electrinium.pdf

The rule of electrical balance is so important that I am going to repeat It. “The electrical
charge of the atom is equal to its weight multiplied by its volume.” Study this law because what
you read further on will not be understandable otherwise.

The only difference between the positive and the nega t ive is in size, weight and their electrical charge, and the electrical charge of these two atoms is equal to each other in force under the law of electrical balance and their position as positive and negative is relative. If the two chosen atoms were Silver and Iron, the Iron atom would be the negative. But if Iron was paired up with a much lighter element, then the Iron would be the positive.

@all

i agree that Summera is not perfect with the theory, he is a follower of Tesla, Summera is good  to create an electrinium, like many inventor he is not fully understanding where the energy come from, but knowing how to make it come

Nitinnu

the electrinium is not so long to read, just very long to figure out or imagine

hey, Nitinnun, i suggest you if you fail to try to evaporate the solution with your fe-c-cu-h compound to get sort of sludge, get out the water first

then mixte this sludge with some glue, sugar, or whatever else

then put a high voltage on that mixture while cooling or solidification of the mixture

it's the high voltage that can compress and align  to atoms of different density in a smaller space, and something to keep it like this



wellllll in conclusion


so it's the difference in the density , and no matter the atomic weight

best choice are, silver-iron, steel-gold, steel-platinum, and i agree to try to chose anything else !

hahahah see you