Towards Realizing the TPU

[wings]

@all
I don't know will it help to understand the mystery of the TPU or not but I found an interesting thing about of vacuum tubes.
There are many difference between SS and tubes but the biggest one is:
tubes can work without supply. (Heating is need!)
No, I'm not fool!
There are two example:
The first one is double diode: without load the output voltage is 2,5 V and 1V with 50 microampere.
The second one is an oscillator with a pentode. Its output is 300mV HF. The inner resistance of the pentode (in that case) is very low and its gain is only 2....3.

Hoping you find it also interesting (maybe useful) information.

Bless you all

Kacor

from SM

http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1826

I originally got the idea from electron circuits which use vacuum rectifiers like the 5U4 GB or 5AR4 etc. The plate has a high voltage potential with lots of useable power available. You cant get to it or use it for anything without applying a heating voltage to the cathode or what is the cathode potential of the tube. So, you put in a small voltage of 5 volts AC 60 Hz which heats up the cathode and welcomes the electron stream from the plate. Or actually the other way around, but not important for this example of my thoughts. Now the high voltage power goes through the cathode and travels through the coils of the 5 volt transformer along with the 5 volt AC. if the plate voltage is not rectified then it is AC with a potential 60 Hz frequency. That combines with the 5 volt 60 Hz in the coil of the htr transformer and generally amounts to nothing. In fact the power of the 5 volt transformer amounts to nothing. It is an insignificant power supply except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with each other, or when they are connected in reverse of one another.Then you can measure all kinds of things going on. You can generate all kinds of hash and multiple frequencies, and I do mean all kinds. What I measured during this process was very interesting. All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a much larger kick at the output.

[Super God]

So I take it that the tubes make a huge difference?

[forest]

As far as I know tubes were invented to replace spark gaps, commutators and other strange devices used in oscillators. SM found a way how the process of resonance in tubes+ transformers circuits. I believe it's the same as described by Tesla. He was able to charge a capacitor and discharge it with not diminishing oscillations - every spikes carry the full energy of  capacitor.Then by varying frequency he was able to obtain any power in secondary. That's clearly described in his notes and interview...

If someone has a triode and experience , would be nice to check about those HV hash going back to heater transformer and if that's related to any current applied to the grid at all.


That's not explain how SM was able to go further and eliminate any tubes, spark gaps. commutators. It's hard to believe for me that the same effect may be done efficiently with mosfets....

[sparks]

    One must consider the bifilar wound coil connected magnetically additive pulsed at a frequency that chokes the acpulse as being quite like SM describes the transformer action that gives rise to the kick.  This kick will also be stored in the capacitance setup between coils.  Succesive pulsing adding charge to this capacitor until such time that the coils insulation or dielectric field is compromised or discharged.

[wattsup]

@Mannix

I have looked into Moray for the first time. Thanks. I'm a Moray virgin. But funny most of what he said I had already known instinctively. It is good to get confirmation from the past. Too bad he was concerned about keeping the secrets that got him nowhere. But I learned alot from the reads. Just more mysteries to solve.

We will find parallels with all of the past investigators because we are still dealing with the same energies.

@All

First of all - very good posts. Thanks.

My question regarding if an anode and cathode have both the north and south or positive and negative polarity was to stress the fact that they should not have both polarities. Looking it up further I have found that they can be one or the other, but not both. An anode can be positive or negative depending on the usage. Same with the cathode. So in essence both the anode and cathode are extremities of a discharge either applied from an outer current source or via an internal "prestored dielectric charge" and are both "mono-polar". They can provide a means of applying an electrical influence on a non-wire mass. A spark gap has a dielectric conductor which is non-wire mass we call space. The same space between the two levels of the rings in the FTPU.

The action in the outer rings of the FTPU cannot be coupling based because there is simply not enough to do a coupling in the traditional sense as in a laminated transformer. The device runs with gain. The vacuum tube needs no coupling. All it knows is that if such and such a small amount of material is electrically heated to x degrees, it will impart the source electrons to the nearest damn thing around, in its case, it's a oppositely charged (not charged by potentialized) plate.

So the problem behind the heating of the TPU is probably due to the fact that it is very normal to get such heat, and if SM said "this was normal", he would have given away too much of the secrets, so he switched it into a problem instead. Let the perceived (pseudo) problem be the distraction. This also gave him good reasons to continue the R&D into the later designs, to try and correct the problem that will always be. Consider that if the heat is normal, who cares, since it is free energy anyways. A light bulb gets hot but it keeps lighting, so if the bulb lit by itself, would you care about the heat. No. But if you made it into a problem that had to be solved, this is a very good distraction.

Why did I ask this question. Well always going back to the TPUs. The toroid and outer coils could not provide such an anode/cathode effect because they hold both polarities. So maybe the outer rings are only connected on one side with the other side left open ended to make an anode and a cathode. Given the proper energy influence, maybe they produce a potential between them and the outer coils then catch this potential. Like the anode/cathode of a capacitor and the dielectric being in this case open space.

The gain aspect would then be normal since if the anode and cathode produce a directional energy transfer through the dielectric of space, and if the outer coils then become electrically charged, and since the outer coils are wound around the anode and cathode, the increase in electric charge of the outer coil will increase the potential surrounding the anode and cathode thus increasing the directional anode/cathode energy flow, thus increasing again the energy in the outer coils and this compounds one on top of the other as an additive effect. It would equal a self-dielectric-exciting-capacitor. And if the potential was right, it could attract energy from the Cosmos as Moray put it.

There are so many possible ways to look at a TPU, it is very easy to stray off in one direction for years and years, but what is keeping me well "grounded" is always looking back to the devices themselves and asking, ok where does this theory physically fit inside a TPU with its limited coils, SS components, etc. If the theory fits, then looking further is justified, if it does not fit, then guys should probably look elsewhere to save time.

Case in point. I made a small insulated iron three loop mobius ring. Put a small one layer primary covering about 25 degrees of the ring and wound a one layer Litz wire (175 strands of 48 awg) secondary all around. And again the only coupling action occurred above 2mhz. Nothing below. Nothing at 5khz range at all. I drove it with AC sine/square and dc pulsed. Otto, I drove it from the positive side, then from the negative side. All of these little tests provide more information but do not point to a logical means of making the TPU work. Could be the same set-up but different use  will get to further down.

The only real odd ball of the TPUs is the OPTU. Two rings but only one with a wind. WTF. This goes against all the other unit designs. It was demoed in a garage with two big table lamps. I have already discussed a step by step method of how to "realistically" fake the demo. The demo could have been faked since SM at that time needed another device to show some progress. That unit was never seen again in other demos. The whole thing is a major quagmire because we are dealing with dark videos, a 2nd rate engineer report, no real serious testing reports, an inventor with a major sob story, many devices that are "all" supposed to work, investors that have most likely been burned, MIB paranoia, and more. So all is possible. The FTPU could have been the device that he got from Europe and all the rest could have been faked. Or all are real and the OPTU (black goose) is a fake. WTF. They could all be real.

Then you think that there is a guy named Madoff could concoct a ponzi scheme and defraud countless billions from what we would consider to be the most sophisticated investors in the world and the organizations that control them, then how easy can it be to defraud a few investors with a nice looking TPU. I know it is hard to read but unfortunately it is the reality any TPUer has to deal with. Working to make a TPU always knowing in the back of your mind that it could have been faked from day one. SOaB.

So we keep going.

I know this is a long post so sorry but I wanted to get back to the anode/cathode theory and how it could fit inside the FTPU.

Give an anode and a cathode a permanently excited dielectric and they will produce an energy output continuously. So let's look at this in the nuts and bolts of how it could fit inside an FTPU.

The toroid has to half wound coils so we can easily see there MUST be a coupling action there or a point of transfer from one to the other. Yes they could be used as regular chokes but such regular chokes are a dime a dozen for smoothing output voltages of 60 volts so why would you use such an elaborate toroid for such a mundane usage. Because it is not a choke.

Take the two rings, one end of each is left open, the other end goes to each side of only one of the half coils in the center toroid. So one of the center toroid coils has one end going to one ring and the other end of the same half toroid going to the other ring. Automatically these simple connections have now transformed the rings into an anode and a cathode. Now pulse the outer coils that surround each ring and find the frequency that may simulate or better still "replicate" a dielectric radiance. Bingo, your rings are now running as the poles of a constant capacitor or battery. Now connect your output to the other half coil in the toroid.

This provides a vacuum tube type design where the source energy in isolated from the load side via the plate, the source energy in the TPU is isolated by the toroid halves. This also would explain why the outer coils where not so diligently wound. The required effect was not winding critical. This also can be extended to all other TPU designs.

Notice in the LTPU his meter showed maximum amperage above the toroids. That confirms that the toroids are the transfer point. Two toroids means four rings, two anodes, two cathodes in the LPTU. Not three.

This is how I try to think about the problem, always bringing the theory back to the nut and bolts of the device itself. The above tells me this is feasible since all the elements are there. There is also room for some variations but the parts physically fit. So this will be the next tests. lol

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