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Towards Realizing the TPU

Started by poynt99, September 03, 2008, 08:46:35 PM

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turbo

Quote from: wattsup on February 03, 2009, 12:40:31 PM
@EM

Do you  have any idea what the ambient HV is like. I mean is it mostly positive or negative or both or is it mostly static waves or magnetism.


If you are reffering to the ambient potential between the earth and the ionosphere, the answer to your question simply depends on your reference points.
If earth is one plate of the capacitor and the sky is the other, and you put a third between them, it's polarity will depend on your reference point and the distance between the other plate.

But any piece of metal is always charged to a certain potential as showed by Mr Herman Plauson.
Tesla explained when his radiant event was triggerd it could be two things, he never really found out which one it was.

His first explenation was that the radiant event charged up things so they would be charged more positive then the ambient potential.
Whenever this happens, the ambient potential will restore the charge diffrence, and thus there will be a flow of energy between the two reference points, tha charged metal and the surrounding environment.
Thi also explanes why one wire transmission works because the energy simply flows in and out of the entire local area.

The second explenation Mr.Tesla gave was that due to the high voltage bombardement, the metal gave up it's environmental charge.
This will make the metal charged less positive in respect to the ambient potential and again it will restore the balance so we have again a flow of energy between the metal and the local area.
Mr Tesla never found out which one it was.

But personally i do not think the energy in the tpu is comming from the charge between the earth and the sky.

If you look at the first reciever coil in a radio it consists of one coil coupled to the antenna and the other end connected to ground.
This concentrates the energy out of the RF spectrum arond the coil, so that it can be picked up by the second coil which is resonant to the desired frequency we want to recieve.

If we want to recieve energy from ELF or VLF waves we would need an antenna by the size of Texas, because the frequency is so low.
Think for a second a coil by the size of Texas, and then think powerlines......

The ELFand VLF waves are concentrated around these lines because the powerlines act like a wave guide.
In theory the powerlines are comparable to the first reciever coil in a radio.
Now we only need to build the second reciever coil(s) and place them in the field created by the first (powerline) reciever coil.
I am sure some radio engeneers that are here know what can be done with the ratios between the two coils to make it pick up just a portion of the energy available, making the second coil compact, and pherhaps even as small as a tpu itself.

If the above doesn't ring any bells, then so be it, but i am with EM on the powerline theory.

Marco.


forest

I believe energy in TPU is normal current unfortunately.That's why it's dangerous,a lot of  amps.
Tesla used something else, I tend to imagine it as a longitudinal waves in Earth magnetic field.A lot of variety configurations exactly like in electronic circuit. You can have Ac like waves,DC (+ or -)  like and so on.
That's why so many effects.But that's not TPU I think, however a TPU which would produce harmless cold electricity would be perfect!

turbo

Please pay attention Forest, if the tpu act like the second coil in a radio, this would indeed be normal current.
However if you take a close look at the moment Steven connects and disconnects loads to his device you will see there is a great deal of high voltage there.
This probably is some RF component, but it can be something else.
In either case it can be converted to traditional current so in both cases it would lead to the same output.
M. 

Mannix

Steven said that they never knew where the power actually came from and I believe him.

If it was power lines ,then im sure he would have known that

However persuing the low frequency reciever is valuable in any case and there is valuable application regardless.

Stay with us on this EM, Im excited about any device that can be tuned to extract energy from a distance from any thing with the kind of power demonstrated.

wattsup

@-[marco]-

My question to EM was more directly related to the energy around the HV lines near the mansion.

I was thinking exactly the same thing about the whole electrical grid could be used like Moray if there was a power failure, hence no voltage in the grid, just make a Moray device, get a good ground, latch onto the electrical and bingo.