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Tesla Radiant Energy Collector TREC.

Started by clone477, September 10, 2008, 10:23:07 PM

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Koen1

Quote from: sparks on October 17, 2008, 11:13:43 AM
@Koen1


    In the final analysis we are looking for free work!
Which we can obtain by pumping the excess "free" energy through a motor and make it do work... right? ;)

Quote@all

        Tesla said many times that the Earth was negatively charged.  Negative compared to what?  Say we get a bunch of ionized gas that have the electrons stripped away and put them in a bottle .  So now we have a positive plate.  What happens in the zone between the earth and the positive plate.  Voltage drop.  Now if we insert two plates into this zone the voltage drop is now expressed on the two new plates differentially.
Does this discharge the Earth?  Does it stop the positive ions from being ionized?
Now the two new plates form a capacitor which is charged with radiant energy and discharged into a motor like the one he popped into his Pierce Arrow.
Okay, but if the ions in the bottle are not removed, the cap plates in between the bottle and the ground never want to discharge,
as the setup behaves like 2 capacitors: one cap consists of the bottle with positive ions in it and the pate underneath it, and one cap
consists of the plate underneath that and the ground underneath that. so basically 2 caps stacked atop eachother. If you don't discharge
the top "plate" (the bottle) and you don't discharge the bottom "plate" (the negative ground), then why would the other two plates discharge?
Won't they just behave like 2 caps in series?
I can imagine that it may be possible to have the cap charge and discharge periodically while we charge and discharge the bottle,
but then it seems very similar to an electron pump circuit where cap plates are charged by electrostatic induction from an opposing
cap plate and a diode is used to turn that into a pump, but as far as I know the input energy in such a setup is still higher than the
output energy (due to switching losses)... ???

thx1138

All energy is free energy. It's the conversion from one form to another in a controllable and sustainable manner that gets expensive. What Dr. Tesla was trying to develop was "fuelless" energy or energy conversion and control attained without burning fuel - in his day, coal.

Hydoelectric power is fuelless electricity obtained by converting kinect energy actuated by gravity to electrical power without cosuming fuel. It is, however, far from cheap or "free". It is also dependent on georgraphy.

His term "radiant energy" is wildly misconstrued these days. There is nothing mysterious about it.
His earliest use of the term that I could find is , "...streams resembling the cathodic must be emitted by the sun and probably also by other sources of radiant energy, such as an arc light or Bunsen burner." That is from "Tesla's Latest Roentgen Ray Investigations", Electrical Review, New York 28 No.17, April 22. 1896

From "The Age of Electricity", Cassier's Magazine, March 1897 is this quote, "We have to evolve means for obtaining energy from stores which are forever inexhaustible, to perfect methods which do not imply consumption and waste of any material whatever."

From "Experiments with Alternate Currents of very high Frequency and their Application for methods of artificial lighting", Lecture before the American Institute of Electrical Engineers, Columbia College, May 20, 1891 - "We are whirling through endless space, with an inconceivable speed, all around us everything is spinning, everything is moving, everywhere there is energy." Here he is speaking of kinetic energy.

So what he is talking about is naturally occurring charged particles. Early on he thought about emanations from the sun but soon realized the problem of storage through the night. He later recognized that cosmic rays from celestial bodies are colliding with the earth continuosuly from all directions. Today they are known as neutrinos and high energy cosmic rays that supposedly originate from supernovae. The scientific community is still working on that.

After the discovery of radioactive materials such as radium he believed that if the material could be shielded from the cosmic rays that they would not be radioactive. Thus one can take it that cosmic rays were what he thought "activated" the radium.

Once you get into studying charged particles you come upon "nuclear batteries". One particular kind closely resembles the radiant energy collector shown in his patents.

In "Sending of Messages to Planets Predicted by Dr. Tesla On Birthday", New York Times, July 11, 1937. —Inventor, 81, Talks of Key to Interstellar Transmission and Tube to Produce Radium Copiously and Cheaply" Dr. Tesla says "...discoveries by which it will be possible to ... produce radium in unlimited quantity for $1 a pound." Why would this be important to him? In 1835 radium cost roughly £580,000 per gram in today's money. One dollar per pound is roughly $0.002 per gram. It wasn't until the 1950's that government got into regulating nuclear materials.

In a nutshell, today's nuclear power generation is what Dr. Tesla was talking about. While it is possible to convert electricity in the atmosphere caused by cosmic ray collisions with atmospheric elements for use, the amount of power obtainable in this manner by an individual is negligible. The cost of obtaining this kind of power to power a single family home just isn't affordable and once again it is dependent on geography. The higher the elevation above sea level the more power can be obtained in this manner.

I've attached a couple of documents showing my research.

jbignes5



Time to check this out guys...


http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-685,953-intensifying-transmitted-effects

Radiant energy is all around us. All we need is a way to find a signal that is stable and create a pll circuit to hold onto that signal then intensify that signal through the use of capacitors.

There is a lot of information in this patent and pay specific attention to capacitor and the special reference made by Mr. Tesla. Listen to the terms he uses, like weak signals and amplification or intensifying these signals to do work.

Sputnik-1

TH Moray appears to have built a device that he could tune into the Radiant Energy.

BEYOND THE LIGHT-RAYS Explanations of the Oscillations of Radiant Energy
www.rexresearch.com/beyond/beyond.htm

Morays device produced a high frequency AC output at about 10Kw

Chapter 7   Aerial Systems and Electrostatic Generators: Nikola Tesla's system, Thomas Henry Moray's system...

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter7.pdf


sparks

  Does Moray ever disclose the Universal frequency?   I sometimes wonder if there is some cosmic infrared background radiation.  Even a cosmic microwave background radiation.  By the length of the antennae Moray was using it could be in the microwave bands.  The atmosphere is transparent to a number of these freqs.  With the amount of man made microwave transmissions going on nowadays with a parmetric oscillator and frequency converter you could probably drive a car around on text messaging alone.  Moray refers to a frequency above light so maybe he tuned into some  gamma radiation.  Now your talking about an antennae/observer that is below the neuclear core diameter which would have to be redshifted all the way down to 60hertz.  Only crack at this would be some sort of crystal and agitating the crystal with a vibrational frequency that brings the neuclear cores close enough to observe the miniscule electric field polarization due to the gamma. hmmmmmmmm. 
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