The Road to Perpetual Motion

[hansvonlieven]

@ hydrocontrol

I'll give your ideas some thought.

One of the things though you must remember that fixed gearing ratios don't work. They do not alter the relationship between the geometry of the inner wheel in relation to the geometry of the outer wheel. That is why a reciprocal movement is paramount.

Hans von Lieven

[AB Hammer]

Here is the same posting I did on Bessler Wheel, with a minor corrections of credit for Doc.


It is looking like I'm the last design holdout LOL . I can't be that especially since I have achieved 1lb lifting 6lbs in my wheel device (without CF lock up like my earlier version did). So I will go ahead and post my ideas for this type of wheel as well and showing my slide counter weight device (tested 1.5 second shift). On mine I am using outside ramp and bearings to ride the ramps. Here is what I sent to Hans to see if any of this might help.

heathenab01

This is the first design to start working on the wheel that Doc posted and what changes I felt at the time to make it work. It was designed to run a different speeds but that would be impossible without counter weights. It also employed ramp shifting. It was my first thoughts.

heathenab02 and 03

This is the second device again using ramp shifting as well as bearings to ride the ramps and spring holding devises in all four center slots. Ramp in and ramp out. the heathenab3 is the center with counter balances employed. These are weighted slide tubes using expansion cables to move it back and forth also triggered by the weight riding up the short shift ramp.
This system can also work on a comparable same speed system, the counter weights becoming very important to create an equilibrium in the center wheel. A very easy spin.


Just a little more fuel to the fire. And thanks to Doc for the name heathen but since these are my versions I call them heathenab.

Also like Hans I retain the Copyright due to the differences applied.
I am publishing these designs under copyright. Feel free to use the information to build any of these devices you wish. When it comes to commercial exploitation I reserve whatever rights are given to my by law.

Copyright Alan Floyd Bauldree 2008 all these designs posted heathenab01, heathenab02, and heathenab03


(heathenab03  is the center of heathenab02)

[Omega_0]

@ Omega_0,

Yes we are preparing to build. I am still having a few problems to get the control mechanism sorted out. There are a number of options, what I am still looking for is a simple rugged and precise mechanism that does the job. Progress is being made though. The engineering drawings are being prepared right now for the wheel itself which is much modified from Pop Keenie's layout. This can then be built already and the control mechanism can be added later.

Hans von Lieven

Good luck to you !!
And please keep us updated.

That old rusted model looks interesting and I wonder why someone would build such heavy wheel. My advice is to start from a small model and go upwards in scale later.

[bluesgtr44]

.....awful quiet....

[Pirate88179]

That's the sound of progress......

Bill