Stanley Meyer and The Water Car Hoax

[HeairBear]

May I use my water powered flame thrower?

[allcanadian]

@valveman

I deal in absolutes "proof" not conjecture.  To believe something without proof is called faith in religion and conspirasy theorism.  You are welcome not to agree.

Now that's a really good point , maybe the most relevant point posted in this thread as it gets to the very heart of the matter. To believe something without proof is called faith---but to believe in nothing because no proof has been offered could be called delusion. Where do you think we would be if man had no faith in himself, no faith that he could improve his life and the lives of those around him? Faith that if he would pursue his dreams no matter how highly improbable they may be he might succeed. The only people who have contributed to the evolution of technology have been people who "believed" they would succeed when everyone around them believed they would fail. The problem is you will never know for certain unless you try----a familiar theme throught history.

[LarryC]

@valvemanNow that's a really good point , maybe the most relevant point posted in this thread as it gets to the very heart of the matter. To believe something without proof is called faith---but to believe in nothing because no proof has been offered could be called delusion. Where do you think we would be if man had no faith in himself, no faith that he could improve his life and the lives of those around him? Faith that if he would pursue his dreams no matter how highly improbable they may be he might succeed. The only people who have contributed to the evolution of technology have been people who "believed" they would succeed when everyone around them believed they would fail. The problem is you will never know for certain unless you try----a familiar theme throught history.

Very well stated, AC.

Regards, Larry

[newbie123]

@valvemanNow that's a really good point , maybe the most relevant point posted in this thread as it gets to the very heart of the matter. To believe something without proof is called faith---but to believe in nothing because no proof has been offered could be called delusion. Where do you think we would be if man had no faith in himself, no faith that he could improve his life and the lives of those around him? Faith that if he would pursue his dreams no matter how highly improbable they may be he might succeed. The only people who have contributed to the evolution of technology have been people who "believed" they would succeed when everyone around them believed they would fail. The problem is you will never know for certain unless you try----a familiar theme throught history.

Almost everyone here wants FE/Alternative energy research to be a credible (and respected) field...

Why is it not respected, other than possible suppression (which sometimes occurs, imo)?

It's because most of you guys are really "extremists"..    With almost anything, from environmentalists, to religious ppl, to gun people, to scientists, abortion people, etc, etc...

There's two sides of a spectrum there's the  "you're nuts" side     ..  the middle area (the norm)  ..  And the other "you're nuts'" side.    And the extreme ends of the spectrum get no respect (from the rest of the spectrum).

Is a physicist who thinks all physical laws are set in stone, and will never be broken ever in the next 1000 years, more ignorant than someone who believes in every FE suppression story, and OU inventor video they've seen? No, they're both delusional, right?

With a little more skepticism, and science, maybe FE/OU research will get the respect it deserves, and less people like the OP.

[Doug1]

Everything is impossible until some one does it ,then it is still impossible until many people are doing it.Then it becomes the next big discovery by those with the upper hand of recourses to make it public in the news. It's rather foolish to raise crow and not expect to have to eat it if that is all you have raised.
  In a free world meaning your free to chose your ideas which is very much lacking when you get down to it since some people take freedom to mean they can impose their ideas onto others who chose a different idea The original poster seams to be looking to get a rise out of anyone who will listen and it looks like the only ones who will engage him are those who do not agree with him.
   Freedom must also include the right to engage if so desired. I will not reward a bad child as this reinforces bad behavior. The world of technology did not get to where it is today because of personality types such as his. He is not an exlporer .