Stanley Meyer and The Water Car Hoax

[valveman]

Watcky and Wouter,  http://waterfuelforall.com/forum/index.php?topic=423.0

His cell produces 12 liters a min at this time. I can tell you that you that they have not yet got 200% from pure DC, maybe later? hrmmm.....

That is very impressive and the design clean.  He is not using pure DC.  There is still ripple in his output and has been greatly diminished by the filter capacitors.  I don't think it matters much since the ripple would be fairly small compared to the voltage.  I don't know how much hydrigen is required to run the average car.  Anyone know?

[sparks]

   I caught this on the internet looking at some crop circle patterns.  Please note the molecular 3dimage at the end.  I think it is the way water bonds due to the polarization of the molecules.  You see the hydrogen bond angle all over this thing.  If we vibrate this properly I can see the hydrogens shaking off the matrix while the higher density oxygens stay at home.  It could also be a matrix of  h3+ions  the most abundant form of matter in the Universe.  This could be some kind of fuel to synthesize.     
       
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k&NR=1

[allcanadian]

I would like to make a point about skeptics, skepticism to a point can be a healthy thing but you should understand where this path leads.Take a look at this website and read the posts for a while and you will get the picture.---http://forums.randi.org/
These guys must be the most self rightious, egostical bafoons I have ever had the displeasure of talking with. They are hard core skeptics who believe reason and logic must dictate everything as such they cannot imagine how "there" logic could be flawed in any way,so they continually degrade and humiliate each other. In essence there logic concludes that 99.99% of the people on this planet are misguided, delusional or stupid relative to them. But there logic has a flaw, the individual, there logic cannot explain the wright brothers airplane, goddards rockets or Teslas alternating current. Because at that time all these technologies were "unproven" to the skeptics the key word being "unproven", the skeptic needs concrete proof before he will believe anything as such he believes almost nothing which is why I have yet to hear of any true skeptic accomplish anything that could be regarded as beneficial to society in any way.
I usually simply ignore the skeptics as they have absolutely nothing to offer me in the way of understanding, they come to degrade and humiliate to make themselves feel superior----that is there nature.

[wizardofmars]

Jason

Interesting article. I appreciate your attempt to apply rationality and skepticism while remaining civil. Pity you can't stick around.

What you really need to understand any of the pseudoscience discussed here is a course in psychology and anthropology. As noted above, this is really more an exercise in the human ability for self delusion and groupthink than it is physics. Actual scientific education and knowledge is generally shunned as the responses to your post clearly demonstrated.

The ultimate proof is the complete lack of success for any of the perpetual motion schemes endlessly discussed here.

And as for the poster who claimed people like Meyer have 'nothing to gain' from such a hoax - you forget Meyer raised millions of dollars from investors and sold 'dealerships' for his water car, in much the same mode as Dennis Lee and legions of scam artists before him. He certainly had everything to gain from a hoax.

[sparks]

     We need skeptics.  Keeps everything honest including our own thought processes.  I am convinced that energy can be elicited from mass.
It is done everytime we replace hydrogen on a carbon chain with oxygen.  Tesla describes a capacitor whose charging is a byproduct of current flow.  Not a direct consequence just a byproduct.  The coil's impedance is matched to it's capacitance and the current flowing through this field travel's unhindered on to do work down the line.  The subsequent discharge of this capacitor coil results in HORSEPOWER gain not just current or voltage gain,  power gain.  How can this be?  The current passing through the coil causes alignment of the emwave energy radiated by the mass of the copper in the coil to mix constructively.  These emwaves are being continously emitted by mass but seldom amount to constructive hetrodyning.  The coil/cap produces an intense standing wave field whose electrostatic effect can result in energy flows in systems far removed from the capacitor.  High cycling of the system results in high net gain from the mass emwave energy.