Bessler Wheel design

[hartiberlin]

Hi Jim,
many thanks for the update.
But nowit seems the rubberbands are too short, if you look up
the original drawing from Koen...
Hmm..
Sometimes minimal design changes can make abig difference in the outcome...

I am still looking for my old w2d design file for my single spring and weight
oscillator fixed to a wheel, Jim, maybe if you know WM2D very well you could
give it a try. There still must only be assigned the right spring constant and the right masses
to wheel and to the weight and then it will probably accelerate all the time.
I am just not finding it anymore on my harddrive.
It was once also in the files section of free-energyof yahoogroups, but I also
deleted it there for space reasons...

If somebody stillhas the w2d file, please upload it over here.
Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[Jim_Mich]

I tried a number of different spring tensions and also giving the wheel a push start either direction. With stronger springs the weights stayed lifted. With weaker springs they tended to rest on the bottom. Changing the tension rate caused the weights to move very little or bounce around lively.

It is very difficult to use freely oscillating springs or pendulums on a wheel. The oscilation patterns constantly change and get out of sync with the wheel rotation. They need something to keep them syncronized.

This wheel just will not work.

Jim_Mich

[snpssaini]

Hi Koen,
where are the springs in this design ?
Do they connect every 2 weights ?
I think springs are a MUST for a Bessler design,
cause you have to store the potential energy in
them , so if a weight has gone down, it could be
pulled up againin the next cycle and the trick must be
to just shift the lever arms with the weights to one side and
store the movement of the weights energywise in springs,
so that the wheel turns to one side and afterwards pulls
up the weights again via the springs so the cycle can begin again.

Have you tried to draw this design in 5 degrees steps and see,
if there are steps, where you have no imbalance or a negative
torque ?
Normally some designs like this have positive and negative
torque steps and the result overall is zero.

Maybe you can test it in MW2D simulation program ?

http://www.workingmodel.com/download.html

This is a pretty easy and very powerfull programm for
these tests.

Regards, Stefan.

Hi Hartiberlin,

Will you please tell me how can I make a Gaint wheel (ride) with the help of MW2D simulation program.
I want to check my machine .

Regards

Sanjay Saini

[hartiberlin]

Sanjay, check the tutorials  and online help files !
Good luck !
Regards, Stefan.

[KoenL]

Hi everyone, sorry I'vee been so long, having major connection problems here...

Anyway, I thought I had included a clearer description of the wheel,
but apparently not; this has given rise to all kinds of speculation like
springs and such.

Legend/description of pic KoensBesslerDesign12.jpg:
The gray circle obviously is the main wheel, which is fixed on an axle.
The grey square is just an aid for drawing purposes, has nothing to do
with the wheel design.
On the rim of the wheel, spaced at equal distances, hinges are attached, onto
which rods (black) are fixed. On the end of each rod is a weight (red ball),
and another hinge (not drawn). Another, larger, rod (blueish) connects each
opposing pair of smaller (black) rods. So for example, the rod with weight fixed
to the 12o'clock hinge on the wheels rim is connected to the rod&weight which
is fixed to the 6o'clock hinge, by the large dark blue rod.
This hinged connection allows the weights a certain degree of freedom to swing,
but it also disallows them to swing in just any direction; some of them are
obstructed in their movement by the wheels rim itself. Note that this means the
smaller rods&weights must be able to collide with and rest on the inside of the
wheels rim.
There are not springs at all. All the rods are solid, and hinged on both ends.
That doesn't mean you can't try to use springs of course, that's up to you... ;-)

I have not tested it still, so I can't be sure...
But in any case it's not possible for "all the weights to end up settling to the bottom",
because they're fixed to the wheels rim...
The entire concept is that these rigid hinged connections allow only enough freedom
of motion for the weights to swing +/- 90deg in one direction and back, but don't
allow them to move in the opposite direction.
unless that's not what you meant...

I have not simulated it but in mind and on paper, so perhaps I should simulate it sometime...
What's a good and easy program for it, you think?

Kind regards,
Koen