Otis Carr's flying machine and the Utron O.U. Electrical Accumulator !

[storre]

And quoting hitlers famous line:

If you are going to lie, lie big so it's not believable.

Get the book, see the pictures to back up what he says.

He shows pictures of all the key people from wwii up until the present with 100s of pictures.

Very convincing but better you get the book before convincing others it's bogus.

The truth is much stranger than fiction!!

Oh and there is no date on the official surrender document of germany surrendering.

Oh and don't forget operation paperclip which is tied into all of this. It's the cleaned up version of what really happened.

[wizardofmars]

Why would I waste my money on yet another book of nonsense?

Oh and there is no date on the official surrender document of germany surrendering.

Wrong. All these documents have dates on and in them. The main German instrument of surrender signed 7 May 1945 has the date written on both pages - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_instrument_of_surrender for a scan.

The only lie being told here is the author telling porkies. I guess he's never heard of Google or Wikipedia.

And just to be complete:

Instrument of Local Surrender of German and Other Forces Under the Command or Control of the German Commander-In-Chief Southwest; April 29, 1945

2. All armed forces under the command or control of the German Commander-in-Chief Southwest will cease all hostilities on land, at sea and in the air at 1200 hours (Greenwich mean time) on 2 May 1945. The German Commander-in-Chief Southwest undertakes to arrange accordingly.

Signed at RHEIMS at 0241 on the 7th day of May, 1945. France On behalf of the German High Command.

Instrument of Surrender of all German Armed Forces in Holland, in Northwest Germany Including all Islands, and in Denmark; May 4, 1945
Instrument of surrender signed at Luneburg, Germany, May 4, 1945
Entered into f orce May 4, 1945; operative May 5, 1945

2. All hostilities on land, on sea, or in the air by German forces in the above areas to cease at 0800 furs. British Double Summer Time on Saturday 5 May 1945.

Act of Military Surrender Signed at Berlin on the 8th day of May, 1945

2. The German High Command will at once issue orders to all German military, naval and air authorities and to all forces under German control to cease active operations at 2301 hours Central European time on 8th May 1945, to remain in the positions occupied at that time and to disarm completely, handing over their weapons and equipment to the local allied commanders or officers designated by Representatives of the Allied Supreme Commands. No ship, vessel, or aircraft is to be scuttled, or any damage done to their hull, machinery or equipment, and also to machines of all kinds, armament, apparatus, and all the technical means of prosecution of war in general.

from http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/gsmenu.asp

[storre]

Why would I waste my money on yet another book of nonsense?

Why not? Money is that important? Send me your email and I will send you my copy then you don't have to spend anything and then you can discuss something with facts instead of suppositions.

BTW, the first page does NOT have the surrender year. Seems strange no. It's not important to have a year on such an important document?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:German_instrument_of_surrender2.jpg

[wizardofmars]

BTW, the first page does NOT have the surrender year.

But it has the day and time of surrender, which was the important part. The year is on the second page. They were busy fighting a war. Maybe they were short of proofreaders. 

I've signed hundreds of contracts that don't have the date on any page except the signature block.

It's not important to have a year on such an important document?

Yes, it is is very important. But they don't need it on every page of a two page document. Was it confusing for historians trying to figure out when WWII ended if they didn't put the year on every page of the two page document?

I like how your claim morphed from 'no date on the document'  to 'no year on the first page'. Typical conspiracy BS that never stands up to scrutiny.

[storre]

I think the year would be important but really it's one small part of many pictures and documents that show what happened. It's really the extension of project paperclip that seems to be more well known.

It explains why Bush and his father did so much to destroy America's image along with the many other problems they caused.

Picture after picture showing about 15 of his closest comrades first in nazi uniforms and then in regular clothes in family get together settings, mostly in Florida about 30 minutes from where I live. The pictures are a few years apart from each other and show clearly that it's the same person.

What are all these nazi's doing in America at weddings and family get togethers???

Anyway read the book if you want to know more. It was something I stumbled onto researching FE but it came with some very interesting information about Tesla which is my main intersest. Politics usually are very uninteresting to me but it explains how Tesla may have unwittingly helped the nazi's win the war. haha sorry had to put that in