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Faraday's Paradox experiment

Started by scotty1, September 27, 2008, 07:20:24 PM

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synchro1

Skycollection proves the existence of eddy currents in copper covered diametric tube spinner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDZu4TjeNTM&videos=Ia6h2blLkH4

allcanadian

@Gravityblock
QuoteHere's an experiment proving the magnetic field does rotate with the magnet, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh7o7Q7PraY

I mean no offense but your experiment is flawed on so many levels it defies description, first the magnet faces are not parallel this is obvious, next there are always field variations due to changes in magnetic density which I have proven time and time again in my levitation experiments(no strings). In fact I have several precision devices which operate solely due to the fact that the magnetic field cannot rotate, that is if the field rotates then the device cannot work, but it does work. I hope I do not sound too harsh but I think you know as well as I do that throwing together a couple magnets on some string in your living room is bad science, I have tried throwing things together in a hurry many times in the past and I always got what I deserved ---- bad inconsistent results.
Regards
AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

gravityblock

Quote from: allcanadian on November 22, 2010, 12:14:27 PM
@Gravityblock
I mean no offense but your experiment is flawed on so many levels it defies description, first the magnet faces are not parallel this is obvious, next there are always field variations due to changes in magnetic density which I have proven time and time again in my levitation experiments(no strings). In fact I have several precision devices which operate solely due to the fact that the magnetic field cannot rotate, that is if the field rotates then the device cannot work, but it does work. I hope I do not sound too harsh but I think you know as well as I do that throwing together a couple magnets on some string in your living room is bad science, I have tried throwing things together in a hurry many times in the past and I always got what I deserved ---- bad inconsistent results.
Regards
AC

Do you think the magnet faces were parallel in the original experiment of this thread, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlUY3snoWI8 ?  He was rotating the top magnet by a hand drill manually (you can even see the rotating magnet moving all over the place due to his unstable hand motions), so the magnet faces were obviously not parallel.  Neither this nor the field variations due to changes in magnetic density ever induced the other magnet to rotate in the original experiment, which makes your arguments mute for my experiments.  If my experiment is flawed, then so is the original experiment of this thread along with other reasons which I have already given.  Since what you said was flawed in my experiments also existed, but never manifested or induced a rotation in the original experiment, then those same arguments can't hold for my experiment.  This means your thinking is flawed on so many levels that it defies description, and not my experiment.  I did not hurry to throw my experiment together.  It was you, who hurried to pass judgement.  I ran several tests to rule out the things you mentioned.  I even ruled out eddy currents.

Another person confirmed there is a small tension in the field lines when gently trying to rotate the magnet.  I can do an experiment with two diametrically magnetized magnets, where rotating one magnet above the other will not induce rotation in the other magnet, just by giving the stationary magnet a huge mass, or other force to keep it from rotating.  If I did this experiment, would you conclude the field doesn't rotate with the magnets in this configuration?  Of course not, so why would you automaticly conclude that the field is able to overcome the mass of the magnets, the mass of the rotor, along with overcoming the friction of the bearings with two axially magnetised magnets without doing an experiment to rule this out?  This was the purpose of my experiment.


GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

forest

I think someone could eliminate all problems with testing two copper coils on a shaft build with slipping rings and powered by quite large current. Then rotate on of them. Of course that would require lab testing.

exnihiloest

Quote from: wings on October 11, 2010, 03:02:02 AM
some idea

AN EXPERIMENTAL DISPROOF OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY THEORY (Unipolar Induction)
by Francisco J. Müller

http://home.comcast.net/~adring/muller.htm

There is no disproof of special relativity here.

Referring to the first case (case A, rotational disk): Müller forgot that a fixed circuit is required in order a current to appear. Then there is a relative motion between 2 parts of a circuit: the rotating disk and the fixed external circuit closing the loop.
From the referential of the fixed circuit, electrons of the disk are viewed traveling in a magnetic field. Thus the Lorentz force F=q*v.B applies, and the electrons of the disk moves radially, creating a current in the external circuit.

This author doesn't apply correctly SR: he doesn't understand that in Lorentz force F=q*v.B, v is the charge speed relative to the observer and not relative to the field or it's source (a field can't be a referential). In our case, the "observer" will be the fixed circuit with an ammeter showing us current.

Obviously this moron doesn't understand relativity, he is not even aware of the now banality why there is no paradox in Faraday disk and why Lorentz and SR are both correct and perfectly explain the functioning. He provides claptrap and disinformation.