Faraday's Paradox experiment

[Rosemary Ainslie]

maybe just two magnets with holes in center levitating on a plastic or wood rod in repelling action, then spin the lower one and observe if distance between them is changed

forest, that's PERFECT.  How about it GB?  Frankly whatever GB does here will be of really great interest as they'll all expand our knowledge of this.  And I must admit that I, like him, am intrigued with what actually causes the lines to break?  My assumption has always been that when they're positioned to attract there's a complete and immediate correspondence of all that flux.  It appears I'm wrong here.  It's possibly graduated and increases over time - exponentially? - possibly? Fascinating stuff.

And in this latter example then I think GB will be showing us much more about the forces related to a potential frictionless bearing.  That's got to be usable.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary 

[gravityblock]

@All:

My experiments did not measure any difference in attraction force if the magnet was rotating or stationary.  It appears my hand or mind was playing tricks on me.  I did notice something interesting though, which everyone here can try.  Suspend a magnet from a few strands of nylon fiber above another magnet.  Gently try to rotate the suspended magnet until it moves.  By doing this, you will notice there is a slight resistance, then it will move freely until it encounters another point where there is resistance.  The suspended magnet can then move freely without any noticeable resistance between these two points.

In order to replicate this experiment, lay a few strands of nylon fiber across the center of a magnet, then place another magnet on top, so the nylon fibers are sandwiched between the two magnets.  After doing this, then suspend these magnets by both ends of the nylon fiber with equal tension on both ends of the fibers.  Once the magnet is suspended above the stationary magnet, then check for any points which may have a resistance.  It is best to have the suspended magnet really close to the stationary magnet.  Also, don't try to rotate the magnet itself, but gently move the magnet by pushing on the fibers.

I suspect the resistance I am feeling is tension in the field lines, and the areas where the suspended magnet can move freely, has no noticeable tension in the field lines.  When the tension or resistance becomes too great, then the field lines of both magnets may disconnect, then reconnect to another field line in order to rid itself of this tension.  This small amount of tension  is not enough to overcome the mass of the magnets in order to cause it to rotate.

I need to do more experiments to verify this and to find other possible explanations.

GB

[gravityblock]

maybe just two magnets with holes in center levitating on a plastic or wood rod in repelling action, then spin the lower one and observe if distance between them is changed

This is a much better test than the attraction experiment I've been working on.  I'll do this repulsive test even though my previous experiment didn't detect any difference in attraction when rotating or stationary........but the spring with the attraction test may have had a negative effect.  Your idea gets rid of the spring.  Excellent idea.  Thank You.

GB 

[BobTEW]

Magnetic currents - REPEL is a separate force internal to the magnet. Google 'd orbital' this is the flow picture. All of the pictures of magnet force is iron base; yet has effect on copper - where is the copper picture? I will be bold - yes I can see inside of magnet!

[Rosemary Ainslie]

@All:

My experiments did not measure any difference in attraction force if the magnet was rotating or stationary.  It appears my hand or mind was playing tricks on me.  I did notice something interesting though, which everyone here can try.  Suspend a magnet from a few strands of nylon fiber above another magnet.  Gently try to rotate the suspended magnet until it moves.  By doing this, you will notice there is a slight resistance, then it will move freely until it encounters another point where there is resistance.  The suspended magnet can then move freely without any noticeable resistance between these two points.

In order to replicate this experiment, lay a few strands of nylon fiber across the center of a magnet, then place another magnet on top, so the nylon fibers are sandwiched between the two magnets.  After doing this, then suspend these magnets by both ends of the nylon fiber with equal tension on both ends of the fibers.  Once the magnet is suspended above the stationary magnet, then check for any points which may have a resistance.  It is best to have the suspended magnet really close to the stationary magnet.  Also, don't try to rotate the magnet itself, but gently move the magnet by pushing on the fibers.

I suspect the resistance I am feeling is tension in the field lines, and the areas where the suspended magnet can move freely, has no noticeable tension in the field lines.  When the tension or resistance becomes too great, then the field lines of both magnets may disconnect, then reconnect to another field line in order to rid itself of this tension.  This small amount of tension  is not enough to overcome the mass of the magnets in order to cause it to rotate.

I need to do more experiments to verify this and to find other possible explanations.

GB

Hi GB.  I tried that suspended magnet number.  You're right about those points where the tension is evident.  Well done for doing those experiments.  At least we know.   And I agree - it'll be interesting to see the results on opposing fields. 

Kindest regards
Rosemary