Faraday's Paradox experiment

[phoneboy]

@nix85, You're mistaken the field doesn't move w the magnet.

Magnetic fields do not rotate along their magnetization axis, Onepower is correct. 

While I agree with you that permanent magnets can have slight variations in their fields due to their construction it doesnt change that fact.

I have to admit that I was in that camp too for a while, I even designed a brushless homopolar generator based on that assumption.

Here is a link to an excellent video on the topic, In paricular pay attention to the scope during the various tests. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gduYoT9sMaE.

This wasn't what made me figure it out. Trust I was like 'you idiot' to myself when I did,  but it should help you if you're as smart as you think.
The key is the return path.

[nix85]

@onepower You offered no proof that field does not spin, you offered an endless diatribe of foolishness, and my SINGLE bible-related post was clearly a reply to alan who replied to me with bible quote, so what, this is an open forum, we can discuss various things, it's not a Nazi camp, you twit.

I, unlike you, offered concrete proofs that fields spin with the "source" - firstly as i wrote

https://overunity.com/16769/faraday-paradox-revisitedmagnetic-field-rotation-question/msg579459/#msg579459

the concept of "source" is wrong in a sense you use it, for source of a gravity field can be outside of this plane, no matter or EM fields present in the area - yet gravity field is present, how come, that much about your "source". (Think about astral beings aka "ghosts" moving things).

Further on, fact is is variations in flux density of a PM are fixed to particular spots and spin with the magnet. This clearly proves field as a whole spins.

Further on, all occult/contactee sources of Higher Knowledge agree that all on all scales is made of spinning, pulsating toroid-vortices made of individual fluxlines as clearly depicted in theosophical Anu and other sources. Earth's etheric vortex spins at constant velocity and Earth spins with it in its center. This is 180° from your false, non-spinning field "idea". You foolishly dismiss these sources, but time will show this is exactly how nature operates. Spinning, spiraling toroid vortices made of lines of flux in which flow etheric "bubbles of nothing" (holes/voids in the time-space forcefield), just like Keely depicted 130 years ago.

As for your Twain quote, i never read anything more ironic, if i am stupid that makes you stupid to the power of infinity.

And there, Holcomb cheerleader idiot jumps in to pollute the thread with BS, cheerleader who never contributed a single technical/scientific or any thing of value, never a single one literally so.

Also when rakarskiy, another disinformer backed by the cheerleader, was disinforming about the Hooper-Monstein for days and weeks, i have proven his claims are 100% false for induction happens there in most normal manner.

https://pasteboard.co/G39LG6W16pJU.gif

Stupid cheerleader wasting server space with BS.

@phoneboy I am not mistaken, magnetic fields do rotate along their magnetization axis and he is not correct.

It's not just that permanent magnets have slight variations in their fields that matters, and you sleazily try to leave it at that leaving out the key part....

it is the fact flux variations are fixed to their respective parts of a magnet and spin with it. This clearly proves that field as a whole spins with the magnet.

I know the video you linked and it shows nothing to the contrary.

You did not figure it out, you are not a student of time-space mehanics, you are not a student of higher sources of learning, you are simply lost like most. Say 'you idiot' to yourself again.

I have already spoken about the the return path and no, it's not the key. The key is the fact variations of flux density are fixed with a magnet and spin with it.

[phoneboy]

@onepower You offered no proof that field does not spin, you offered an endless diatribe of foolishness, and my SINGLE bible-related post was clearly a reply to alan who replied to me with bible quote, so what, this is an open forum, we can discuss various things, it's not a Nazi camp, you twit.

I, unlike you, offered concrete proofs that fields spin with the "source" - firstly as i wrote

https://overunity.com/16769/faraday-paradox-revisitedmagnetic-field-rotation-question/msg579459/#msg579459

the concept of "source" is wrong in a sense you use it, for source of a gravity field can be outside of this plane, no matter or EM fields present in the area - yet gravity field is present, how come, that much about your "source". (Think about astral beings aka "ghosts" moving things).

Further on, fact is is variations in flux density of a PM are fixed to particular spots and spin with the magnet. This clearly proves field as a whole spins.

Further on, all occult/contactee sources of Higher Knowledge agree that all on all scales is made of spinning, pulsating toroid-vortices made of individual fluxlines as clearly depicted in theosophical Anu and other sources. Earth's etheric vortex spins at constant velocity and Earth spins with it in its center. This is 180° from your false, non-spinning field "idea". You foolishly dismiss these sources, but time will show this is exactly how nature operates. Spinning, spiraling toroid vortices made of lines of flux in which flow etheric "bubbles of nothing" (holes/voids in the time-space forcefield), just like Keely depicted 150 years ago.

As for your Twain quote, i never read anything more ironic, if i am stupid that makes you stupid to the power of infinity.

And there, Holcomb cheerleader idiot jumps in to pollute the thread with BS, cheerleader who never contributed a single technical/scientific or any thing of value, never a single one literally so.

Also when rakarskiy, another disinformer backed by the cheerleader, was disinforming about the Hooper-Monstein for days and weeks, i have proven his claims are 100% false for induction happens there in most normal manner.

https://pasteboard.co/G39LG6W16pJU.gif

Stupid cheerleader wasting server space with BS.

@phoneboy I am not mistaken, magnetic fields do rotate along their magnetization axis and he is not correct.

It's not just that permanent magnets have slight variations in their fields that matters, and you sleazily try to leave it at that leaving out the key part....

it is the fact flux variations are fixed to their respective parts of a magnet and spin with it. This clearly proves that field as a whole spins with the magnet.

I know the video you linked and it shows nothing to the contrary.

You did not figure it out, you are not a student of fundamental time-space mehanics, you are not a student of higher sources of learning, you are simply lost like most. Say 'you idiot' to yourself again.

I have already spoken about the the return path and no, it's not the key. The key is the fact variations of flux density are fixed with a magnet and spin with it.

@nix85, Wow dude. 'sleazily'

You say you've seen that video, ok then tell me this.

They spin the disk (magnet stationary) and get a current.

Then the magnet and disk are spun in the same direction but now there is only relative motion between the return path and the field except the field cuts the conductor in the opposite direction so why hasn't the currents polarity changed?

Because the field doesn't spin. There is no paradox.

I guess the rules of induction don't apply to you. 

Look I get that this universe to us is just an 'illusion' of our perception but for you its seems as if its a 'delusion' so you enjoy that.
Please do everyone on this forum a favor and start taking your meds again.

[nix85]

...but now there is only relative motion between the return path and the field except the field cuts the conductor in the opposite direction so why hasn't the currents polarity changed?

Because the field doesn't spin. There is no paradox...

Sleazy cause you left out the key part. Anyway. For the video.

Like i said i know the video and have seen it years ago, i have been aware of Faraday "paradox" since the beginning of my research into overunity 10 years ago. Of Bruce De Palma - N Machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krx3dqoxKA0

Of Tesla's variation of the Faraday disk with spiraling grooves...... etc.

There are various theories and as video you linked says relativists say field does spin with the magnet and maxwellians say it does not, in this case relativists are right.

Your "argument" is nonsense. You did not explain the apparent paradox, you did not even present a remotely sensible theory. If you think you have an "explanation" put it forward intelligently and with absolute clarity, if you do so, i will consider it with pleasure.

I don't have an explanation for the apparent paradox at the moment and neither do you. I do however understand induction far far better than you including its more subtle aspects of which you are 100% ignorant. As i wrote before, your colleague was also making wrong claims and he was disproven.

https://pasteboard.co/G39LG6W16pJU.gif

When talking about strange aspects of induction one needs to get into the Vector Potential aka the A field i spoke of countless times around here

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Andersen_AETHER_CONTROL_via_an_understanding_of_ORTHOGONAL_FIELDS.pdf

And also highly relevant is Henry's disovery of two kinds of induction i also recently spoke about again.

https://overunity.com/18391/two-kinds-of-induction-henry/

He has proven that induction contains at least two types of phenomena, one that produces fierce shocks and can be screened by any metal etc, and one weaker which does not produce shocks and cannot be screened by any metal except iron. And his last experiment (number 51) removes all doubt about the clear distinction between the two.

So there is FAR more to induction than you supposed there is.

I guess the rules of induction don't apply to YOU.

You have no idea what induction even is.

And to return to flux variations... Again, it is an undeniable fact variations of flux density are fixed relative to magnet and as magnet spins they spin in sync - field does spin.

Even if it is just 1 gauss difference in one point on the magnet, that point with 1 gauss difference spins in sync with the magnet. You cannot just dismiss this or brush it off or close your eyes and pretend it's not there.

You don't get anything, you have just proven that universe is a delusion for YOU, so YOU enjoy that. You know nothing about time-space mechanics, about gravity and other sub fields. You are not even aware of Earth's spinning etheric vortex. Don't embarrass yourself by attempting to discuss the subject you don't have even the basic knowledge of, let alone the deeper aspects of it (Vector Potential aka A field, Henry's discovery of two aspects of induction etc). And take your own advice, please do everyone on this forum a favor and start taking your meds again.

[sm0ky2]

The paradox is not a yes or no type of thing


It pertains to the frame of reference of the observer.
The magnetic field rotates in its' own frame of reference
Independently from the rotation of the disk(s) and/or magnet(s)


This is in part from their rotation, but also the impedance of free space,
and the fact that the field is time-dilative by its' own propagation.
'disconnected' from the experiment so to speak


by choice of another frame of reference from which to observe the field,
the true magnetic rotation can be measured.


what must be understood, fully:
we never detect a field
We detect the flux (change) with respect to the ambient or our arbitrary neutral state.
Therefore: the more uniform the field, the less and less we will be able to detect the rotation,
even with the most sensitive of equipment, when observing from the standard perspective.
We are looking for a rotation, but rotating with respect to what?
Not the disk, not the magnet, not us
But rather the space the magnet sits in


The disk sees a uniform field, very much like our instruments
the currents see the field rotation
This was described by Faraday, Foucault, Tesla and others.
The paradox is the perspective, an observation which seems to go against Faraday's induction