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Overunity Machines Forum



HHO Cell - Stan Meyer Design.

Started by peterpierre, October 11, 2008, 05:01:21 PM

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What do you think about my current findings in regards to my interpretation of Stanley Meyers System?

I think you're right on track.
Should work but I have reservations. (please post explanation)
I think you're way off. (please post explanation)

peterpierre

Sure you can do that, however, for the particular setup displayed in stans patent drawings, completely not suitable - it does not give you the desired results.

Ah and:

A very common example is an AC waveform "Riding" on top of a DC signal.  Very commonly used, but along the same concept.  Use a Cap to pull the two signals back apart.  (Yeah, I know, That's old stuff.)

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That would be a false statement, that is a 6 pulse rectification of AC to DC with residual AC in the DC after rectifier ... by using a cap you merely get rid of the residual AC in your DC which would be very desireable (again, see my last pics ... notice the big capacitor in there right behind the rectifier?)

peterpierre

Another cute definition of the term dielectric .. which in our case is supposed to be water, once again hinting on the fact that in order to comply, the electrodes MUST be isolated, it also hints that in this particular occasion, we indeed have to be working with a DC circuit in order to make proper use of the dielectric properties of water ... guys, do not condition your electrodes - isolate them, as of in 'entirely' ... here the definition as reference:

A dielectric is an electrical insulator that may be polarized by the action of an applied electric field. When a dielectric is placed in an electric field, electric charges do not flow through the material, as in a conductor, but only slightly shift from their average equilibrium positions causing dielectric polarization: positive charges are displaced along the field and negative charges shift in the opposite direction. This creates an internal electric field which partly compensates the external field inside the dielectric. If a dielectric is composed of weakly bonded molecules, those molecules not only become polarized, but also reorient so that their symmetry axis aligns to the field.

While the term "insulator" refers to a low degree of electrical conduction, the term "dielectric" is typically used to describe materials with a high polarizability. The latter is expressed by a number called the dielectric constant. A common, yet notable, example is that a dielectric is the electrically insulating material between the metallic plates of a capacitor. The polarization of the dielectric by the applied electric field increases the capacitor's capacitance.

The study of dielectric properties is concerned with the storage and dissipation of electric and magnetic energy in materials. It is important to explain various phenomena in electronics, optics, and solid-state physics.

The term "dielectric" was coined by William Whewell (from "dia-electric") in response to a request from Michael Faraday.

For any additional questions please reference the aricle in Wikipedia.

peterpierre

Wow, who would have thought ... not a single post, no reply, no questions, no critics - nothing ... well, I guess not then ...

haithar

your post only states fact, nothing to comment on?!
probably distilled water is enough to do the isolation though?

peterpierre

if you have 2 electrodes (example) with a distance of 1 - 3 mm and apply a High Voltage DC Pulse you will notice very quickly that given circumstances, although distilled - it is quite conductive, it will arch (probably fry your electronics and/or transformer(s)) and a current will flow, at which point it becomes inductive and no longer capacitive ... dry ice would be good as a dielectric, but the moment it starts to melt and has water on the surface it will also start conducting ... so the only way is to isolate :)

Note: For safety reasons (mainly to your electronics and transformers) after proper isolation, the electrodes should undergo a induction test.