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Sodium-Water to make H2 Fuel For Cars, can this be true?

Started by djeenius, October 15, 2008, 11:54:54 AM

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triffid

I do not approve of mixing chemicals together just to see what happens.These sodium parties are dangerous where all one does is throw a lump of sodium into a lake leaving behind NaOH for the lake's ecosystem to contend with.Triffid

khabe

Have you ever calculated what will be the cost of your Hydrogen, using any method from this forum?
I dont want to say not any bad words about, just  interested.
Regards,
khabe

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/science_news/2936846.html
The basic process, electrolysis, is nothing new: Combine water with an electrolyte, and run current through the solution, forcing the water molecules to split into hydrogen and oxygen gases. But electrolysis-formed hydrogen has long been hampered by the high capital cost of the metals ::) used in the process, around “thousands of dollars per kilowatt,” :o says Richard Bourgeois, GE’s electrolysis project leader. GE’s breakthrough comes from a proprietary material called Noryl, a highly chemical- and temperature-resistant plastic developed by the GE labs, that lowers the cost of hydrogen production to hundreds of dollars per kilowatt, according to Bourgeois.

Paul-R

I think someone means "sodium water" to mean sodium hydroxide, i.e. what you get
if you drop sodium into water.

Sodium hydroxide is used in the Boyce electrolyser which produces 50 litres per min
(peak: 100LPM). This would power a smal car. It is described half way down this file:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf
Paul.

hansvonlieven

G'day,

Has anyone thought of using calcium carbide?

Calcium carbide when combined with water generates acetylene gas. The reaction is vigorous but not dangerous. In the past it has been used in welders and lamps, in fact in many parts of the world this technology is still used. The apparatus is simple to build, in fact little more than a tank filled with calcium carbide and a water tank that dribbles water into the calcium carbide on demand.

Because the acetylene is generated as needed the storage problems associated with acetylene do not arise. Drawback is a foul smelling sludge that is left over from the reaction which might present a disposal problem.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Kator01

Hi Hans.

yes you are right. I remember my father - he was a gold & silver-smith - used this unitl the mid-sixties. As far as I remember it was a 15 ltr-vessel and the carbide-mass was just about the size of an adutls fist. It was placed in a open cage above the waterlevel and you would lower is according your need (volume of gas). But I doubt that the amount produced will be sufficient for a vehicle. It was just enough for a small burner-flame.

Regards

Kator

PS : Sodium is very dangerous to handle. But somenthing is about this Kanzius-design. He uses saltwater and splits it wih radio-frequencies. Someone could check what the color of the flame is he is producing. This might give a clue if sodium is involved. I do not know where to find his video-Demos