Truth about Obama

[Rocko]

                     Sorry guys but another 4 yrs of Bush thru McCain and we would have been just another part of China.

     It looks like most of the country didnt fall for that terrorist crap or the illegal alien crap or Joe 6 pack wanna be plumber. I liked McCain back in 1999 but he's nothing like that now he just sounds like another Bush. I just know if I voted for McCain in a couple of yrs I would have felt like alot of people that voted for Bush, sorry that i did.

    I just cant seem to believe that some people are ok with the way our country has fallen in the past 8 yrs under Bush and wanted to go for another 4 or 8 more. Obama may not fix everything Bush broke but at least he'll try by doing something different and with McCain it would have been the same ole crap of past 8 yrs.

   Hopefully we can all agree that no more Bush in office is a good thing.

[Pirate88179]

Rocko:

You are misinformed.  Yes, Bush is President.  If you understand anything about our system of government, you know about the three divisions of power: Executive, Judicial and Legislative.  Everyone blames bush for the war.  The President can't go to war without Congressional approval.  Some blame the economy on Bush.  Well, bush can't control the economy.  In fact, it was the Democrats (Barney Frank, etc.) that forced banks to make loans to folks that everyone knew could not pay back the loans.  This program actually began under Jimmy Carter and was stopped by Reagan.  It was then reimplemented by Bill Clinton who increased the amount of "bad" loans required by each bank.  Then, low and behold, folks can't pay the mortgages and the housing and banking markets start to crash and....what? It is Bush's fault?  Bush attempted 2 times to stop the loans to these folks.  And yes, two times the democrat controlled congress did not go along with his ideas.

The house and the senate (congress) have the real power.  The founding fathers saw to it that, even a bad President could only do so much harm, and, conversely, a good President can only do so much good.  So, don't blame all of this on Bush.  Place the blame where it belongs...on the democrat controlled congress.  Bush was not perfect by any means, don't get me wrong here.  Just make sure you hang the man for what he did, not what the democrat controlled congress did.

By the way, you mentioned China.  Obama has taken, it is estimated, about 100 million dollars in campaign contributions from China. (Remind you of the Clintons?)  This is a criminal offense and if anyone in Washington had the balls, he would be impeached before he even gets into the office.  In case you didn't know, accepting ANY money from foreign sources is totally illegal.

Bill

[christo4_99]

Pirate,
Do you realize how much of the "wrong tree" you are barking up defending Bush and condemning Obama?The Bush admins agenda was to go get control of Iraqi oil.They still haven't done it.They never will.Joe Biden knows that this war was a waist of time,lives and money.Failure in Iraq shows the incompetence of the admin that waged the war.You need to get with reality and realize that by defending Bush you are fostering the very oppression that catapulted your hated Obama into office. P.S. the president can declare war in a state of national emergency without the approval of congress...listen to Ron Paul on this subject. also Obamas birth certificate is available online...he was born in Honolulu Hawaii...

[Pirate88179]

christo:

The President can not go to war without congressional approval.  In the case of a "national emergency", the War Powers Act allows a limited action without approval.  These actions are limited in scope and time frame, a matter of weeks, not years.  So, you are incorrect.  A President can declare war as outlined above but not conduct it for more than a very short time.  He can not stay at war alone.  This is not Bush's war, it is Congress's war and the Constitution allows no other way.

I actually like Ron Paul as he is a Constitutionalist.  So am I.  The only reason I did not back him was his stance on the war.  He is an isolationist also.  This has been tried many times by many countries, and while it sounds good, it just does not work.  Other than that, he would have made an excellent President in my opinion.  He is far more conservative than Bush or McCain ever was.

Bill

[ResinRat2]

Bill,

I agree with what you wrote. If you are using our Constitution as the basis, then you are right on the money and following it is simple. If no power is expressly written, then it does not belong with the Federal Government and is left up to the States.

As far as Ron Paul and the war. He addressed this issue and it is strictly along Constitutional lines. He said that he would withdraw the troops from Iraq UNLESS Congress gave him a Delaration of War. Then he would fulfill that Declaration. So you see, Ron Paul was your man both in the war and outside of the war. You, most of all, would appreciate that stance.

The rest of the clowns on here with their Obama rants and love of Socialism are ignoramuses. They wouldn't know what true freedom is and how the Constitution is supposed to work. I see that you do.

My other dislike of Obama is his full abortion stance. McCain supported stem-cell research from aborted babies. So even he was partially an abortion supporter. That's why I couldn't have voted for either one of them. You can't build a descent society on the bodies of aborted babies.