Truth about Obama

[Cap-Z-ro]

Just wait as cotton pickin' minute there Bill!!

If our "socialized medicine" is so dysfunctional, then how come your government produced oxyconton addicts have to order their fixes-I mean medicine from our canadian government produced addicts ??

Answer me that ?

Regerds...

[Pirate88179]

@ Cap:

That's easy.  Because you guys pay cheaper rates for some medications.  You are charged less for the same thing because the drug companies know you cant/'won't pay the prices we have to pay.  Personally, I think this is price fixing and as such is against  the Sherman act.  A drug, or any product, should cost the same anywhere.  To price things on the customers ability to pay in different areas is, in itself, corrupt.

I am not putting the Canadians down, don't get me wrong.  The people there are good, the government system is what is bad.  I know a lot of Canadians personally and they are all against the socialist form of government.  Pretty soon though, we will pass you in this area, thanks to this recent election here.  I may be moving to Canada soon.  I don't want to be here when the place crashes and burns, which it will.  It's either Canada or Australia.

Bill

[allcanadian]

@pirate88179

With all due respect, you are wrong about me, but no matter.  The Socialism I was referring to you should know very well.  It is the same thing that causes you Canadians to come to the US for health care because your system is terrible due to socialism.  Socialism brings a society to its lowest common denominator as demonstrated by your socialized health care system.

LOL, I'm usually wrong about most things and apologize for labeling you, the fact that your here debating the issues most people would not should say something of your integrity. The only point I could make is that there must be a better way, if only we could find it.

@Techstuff
I guess we have a difference of opinion, all I have seen of religion is the fact that it divides people into groups who oppose one another. In nature we find all forces in opposition will oppose one another, they find strength and motion through their indifference.

"In that day, many will give up the faith, saying, my Master is delaying."

, or hopefully they will say "I am my own master and will decide my own fate" ---- a fate that we could determine together outside the context of religion and other beliefs which control our thoughts. I think things will get very bad before we will take control of our destiny and many who have declared themselves gods among us will fall. In any case the world is changing and we should never stop questioning what is happening around us.

[myrmex]

@ Cap:

That's easy.  Because you guys pay cheaper rates for some medications.  You are charged less for the same thing because the drug companies know you cant/'won't pay the prices we have to pay.  Personally, I think this is price fixing and as such is against  the Sherman act.  A drug, or any product, should cost the same anywhere.  To price things on the customers ability to pay in different areas is, in itself, corrupt.

I am not putting the Canadians down, don't get me wrong.  The people there are good, the government system is what is bad.  I know a lot of Canadians personally and they are all against the socialist form of government.  Pretty soon though, we will pass you in this area, thanks to this recent election here.  I may be moving to Canada soon.  I don't want to be here when the place crashes and burns, which it will.  It's either Canada or Australia.

Bill

Actually our meds is paid by the govt. so that's basically why they pay cheaper as in the volume is bigger .  What our system is complete bs is that  i pay 575$ on my income tax for meds even if i take none , while my mother also pays 575$ but spend for at least 5,000 $ per year on meds.


The health care system is plagued with the same problem as our local and provincial system .... a workforce that is driven by no will to perform thus turning anything into hell for the patient ... It is not rare that i hear people saying they were the third on the waiting list for a minor operation that should take 15 minute and still waited 8 hour "in line" ( if you can call 3 people a line ) Ask yourself this .... have you ever seen a full hospital wing ( 1 operating room 1 doctor 2 nurse ) to threat 3 patient in a whole day in the USA ?

You would assume that with a 1 day surgical operation ( you come in and leave the same day ) you would not have to wait in a "imaginary line" but so is our system ...

[Pirate88179]

Thanks guys from Canada.  I am in no way putting down our neighbors to the north.  The only reason I was pointing out about your health care system was to illustrate how our will be soon.  If I were smart enough to become a Dr. and the state then told me I could only make "X" amount per year, what will happen is that all of the smart folks will go into other lines of work and the Dr.s that don't/can't will be the ones treating us.

Capitalism and free enterprise has its faults but, it does tend to bring out the best in a people or society.  Yes, greed (that ugly word) may be the driving force but, look at what that has done.  I have just read another book on Henry Ford.  His "greed" brought the price of an automobile down from $800 to $250.  He made money at both prices. (The evil profit)  but, his biggest profits came once he was able to lower the price to $250/car so more could afford to buy.  He then amassed major wealth which others thought should belong to them.  This is what I am talking about.  There is no perfect system but, with one system, you get the best out of folks, with the other, you get the least amount they want to give to just get by.

Again, I apologize if I have offended anyone from Canada.  That was not my purpose. Actually, I would like to see, one day, a uniting of our two great countries.  Take the best of both countries and discard the worst of both.  That would be one heck of a country.  We are, after all, all North Americans.

Bill