A Simple Overunity

[lltfdaniel1]

This idea could very likely to work,

convert a Lawn mower into a Generator (Lawn Mower to generator). - DIRT CHEAP and Use an alternator.

Convert the lawn mower to run on Hydrogen.

Get the motor running on hydrogen.(Thus produceing power)

Use that power to Produce hydrogen to keep the motor going.(Use a Dual Circle , not a single circuit)

I Think will little maintence geting the fuel.useage right and what loads is a wise idea.

Daniel.

(Simple eh?)

although it would need tweaking.....

[lancaIV]

From the theme "A Simple Overunity" to a simple "Overunity Society",an outlook of
"freestyle" possibilities:

vehicles:

prismz.com? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Automite
home.earthlink.net? Urban EV,Fradella
austinev.org? ? ? ? ? ?Lavenami
mcn.org? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Electilite

Question:How many KW/HP/PS do we really need ?(austinev.org,page "Motors":line 4-6)

Electric "City-car" conversion:

Haeusler Zsolt? ? ? DE10011074? ? ?Electric Motor/Generator Conversion? ? ? ? ? ?1,5KW
Franz Hawlitschek DE4031920? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? *? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2,5-5KW
Manfred Hoyer? ? ?DE2529451? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? *? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 3,3kw
Holger Zeissler? ? ?DE19522794? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?*? ? ? ?? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 8,0KW

REVA Electric Car
LOREMO L22
?
Peter Rust? ? ? ? ? ?DE10103188? ? ?Hybrid-Car-Conversion (~sigmaautomotive.com)

Kurt Fritzsche? ? ? ?DE4332378? ? ? Hybrid-Combustion/Electric-System: 3lt./100km published

Kurt Fritzsche + proepowersystems Thermo-dynamic Engine and Recuperator:would be 2lt./100km
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Hydrogen:Safehydrogen
Fritzsche +proepowersystems+ Peter Rust-Motor/Generator-Couple DE3713965:would be 1lt./100km
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Fritzsche +proepowersystems+ Flynn Magnet-Motor WO0022000007285/Jakelj Magnet-Motor/
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Klinsing DE2653497

This are the last steps of the combustion engine-aera,the next aera will be the e-recycling system
concept like Holger Zeissler DE19522794/trinitymotors.net? but with conventional OU Magnet-Motors.

Sincerely
? ? ? ? ? ? de Lanca
p.s.:I like car-design like Lotus Esprit and the? Maserati-models,but more important are for me
? ? ? functionality and the best response is the? Max Mueller Friedrich car-Idea DE2335220,
? ? ? the last page shall be ignored("Riesen-UFO",somebody could get headache!).

[Elvis Oswald]

Overunity - maybe.  Simple... it ain't. 

Here are some questions to answer before you take apart your lawnmower.

1. A lawn mower makes electricity already to fire the plug to burn the gas.  IF you converted it to run on hydrogen - would it take less voltage to burn the hydrogen?

2. Turning a generator with the mower motor will put a drag on the mower... that will decrease the voltage and cause a stall.  Will the drag be more than the tall grass that stalls the mower while mowing?

3. Can you 'make' hydrogen out of the air or water?

4. How much electricity to make the hydrogen?  (see #2)

The internal combustion motor is just not the way to go.  If this idea is going to make it out of the 'half-baked' forum... you need to consider using a 'quasi-turbine motor' (google search) which is similiar to a rotary motor.  Compression will burn the fuel (like a diesel)... no need for wasting voltage on the spark. 
That's the first thing.
Secondly... if you can make hydrogen easily and cheaply then who would really worry about overunity?  Just doing that and using the right motor to turn a generator would mean cheap and clean electricity.

[raburgeson]

Maybe, ask you a simple question though. Lawn engines are vertical shaft and hydrogen fuel=water for exhaust. Don't you think it would be better to use a horz. shaft engine, it might be less suceptable to getting water introduced into the oil. A horizonal piston stroke quickly wears the cylinder egg shaped and even quicker still when the cylinders lubrication is contaminated. What the hay, I may not know what I'm talking about. Let's here from some others, I would think dieseling would not be possible with hydrogen because the engines actually work different. Hydrogen would detonate not burn delivering pure detonation damage.  You will be trying to preform a clean smooth burning of the fuel I think.

[silverdragonrs]

i agree with horiz shaft. and disagree with mr. oswald (sorry) the alt will put out between 14.5 and 18 v of electricity which can be passed through a converter (like what you use to run a tv in your car) extracting hydrogen from water can take as little as 12v leaving some left to charge a battery. using a higher HP motor (at least a 5 horse up to 17.5 (riding mower)) the spark is not waisted and more than one alt/gen can be hooked up if you use a riding mower! make sure to detach all non assentials and go!...... the exsaust (water) whould be run (through filter) to the water storage tank. see my first topic on hydrogen from water fro ideas on a system that rewuires very liitle input and has very high output. for higher rpms on your motor (to get high output from your alt/gen(s) weld a one inch pully to a three inch pully and attach the one inch to the crank via belt... then the alt/gen(s) attach to the three inch pully via belt (use one inch pully on alt/gen(s)) **** the alt/gen(s) sill turn three times faster than the crank**** this will result in lower motor strain and fuel consumption. 

keep in mind that a car alt is capable of powering more than one 12v system.. you can use one (total) system to power up to (but not limited to) three other systems. **** in other words**** three generaters running off of one generator for power leaving the final three powerplants free of burden or dranage other than what you are using the powerplants for.

look at the attached image for basic rpm increasing