Free energy should be easy to get.

[utilitarian]

utilitarian,
We have the downword motion aswell that could be utilized and the pressure of the weight could be offset by the outside weights as shown in the picture and more generator pulley's could be used then what is pictured. The weight cables and retractable airlines and the retatration device could all be utilized for creating electricity during both the upword and downword motion. It just seems that it should be enough motion to produce all the energy needed to make it work.


It's not that it is a overunity process more so then that it creates a vapor that is lighter then air it's self and therefor should work better then air.

You maybe right but I guess I need to test it for myself to be sure because I just cant see why it wouldn't work.

Just don't think of buoyancy as just a magical upward pushing force, but the logical result of the downward force of the water, which is denser than air.  Then it will all make sense.  What you are proposing is no different that lifting a brick and hoping to generate enough power from its downward descent to have enough energy to lift it up again, plus a surplus.

Electrolysis is not oblivious to water pressure.  The harder it is to make the gas bubble because of all the weight of the water on top, the more energy it will take.  There cannot be a profit there.

[nightlife]

utilitarian, "What you are proposing is no different that lifting a brick and hoping to generate enough power from its downward descent to have enough energy to lift it up again, plus a surplus."

No, I was proposing using both the upward and downward movement unlike dropping a brick that would only offer a downward movement and all I was seeking is enough energy to create a bubble with hopes of having some energy left over.

Again, you may be right but I still can not see it that way at this time. I am trying to do some testing right now and I will let you know what I find out.

[TinselKoala]

Readers of this thread may be interested in the analysis at
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/themes/buoyant.htm
and
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/themes/bellows.htm

[nightlife]

TinselKoala, the design you posted can not work because it will equal it's self out. I am working on modifying a air pump as we speak for a design I have in mind. I will be testing two different ways of using air pumps. One by using a large pulley and another by using a pulse circuit.

I may end up using a upgraded bedini wheel in a design.

[X00013]

Research Oceanic Sterling and you will have your answer. Guys long ago were pretty damn smart.