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The Young Effect, my gift to the free energy movement!

Started by captainpecan, November 16, 2008, 11:02:42 PM

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the vid i posted last night to youtube was done on a low res cam  :)

the vids i will make from now on are hi def  8)

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To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

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sparks

Quote from: Grumpy on December 06, 2008, 10:12:08 AM
To do this you have to move the dielectric or the energy in it and by that I mean you have to move the state of stress that was the response to the energy initially applied to the capacitor.

For example,  take a plastic cylinder and place 4 set of capacitor plates on each side like poles of a motor with the plastic cylinder in the middle of the plates of each pole.  Charge one "pole" of plates.  Rotate the plastic cylinder so that the portion of plastic that was between the pole that you charged is now between the poles of the next "pole" of plates.  The energy stored at the first pole will now be at the second pole.  This is just for illustrative purposes, as it takes energy to physically move the cylinder.  Wait.  Add a magnetic field via a large solenoid around the entire cylinder and poles.  Now the rotating cylinder will also generate charge in the pole plates.

There you have Grumpy's dielectric windmill and a lesson in dielectrics.

       @Grumpy

      Would you say that the migration of electrons from one side of an atom to the other side of the atom can be used to move the wire?









Should any particular orientation
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Grumpy

Quote from: sparks on December 06, 2008, 02:28:29 PM
       @Grumpy

      Would you say that the migration of electrons from one side of an atom to the other side of the atom can be used to move the wire?









Should any particular orientation

Electrons are not little point-like things floating around the center of an atom - this is a poor representation that has been misinterpreted as "fact".

Also, keep in mind that when you have a sphere , cylinder, or ring - you have a divergence - might that have something to do with what we call "mass", "inertia", and "gravity"?
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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HEYDUDE

Another overlooked factor quite alongside of Captain Pecans attempt at overunity is to consider the amount of energy wasted in charging the first capacitor to 18.33 volts from the two 9 volt batteries.

As we are well aware every battery can be modeled as a voltage source in series with the battery's internal impedance. This internal impedance can be arrived at by taking a few resistors e.g. 1 Ohm, 10 Ohms, 100 Ohms. Hook your meter to the battery and temporarily place each resistor across the battery noting the voltage drop. From this you will be able to graph a series of load lines that will allow you to guesstimate the internal impedance using Ohms law for resistors in series.

If the battery were a pure voltage source (internal impedance equals 0 ohms) the instantaneous current would try to go to infinity for a brief instant until the capacitor charged. At that point the current would drop to 0 and the capacitor would be fully charged. The real world is not like this.

Since the batteries have  an internal impedance (resistance) this resistance will soak up considerable energy in charging the cap because all of the charging current must flow through the batteries internal impedance, generating a small amount of heat and wasted power. Roughly half of the energy that the battery tries to deliver to the capacitor is wasted in this internal resistance.

Although this is a side issue it will have to be dealt with at some point in the captains "design" if he is to achieve his goal.

There are a few ways around this involving a little engineering, but we know how some of you feel about those trained engineers, so we'll save that for another time.


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MeltDown

QuoteThere are a few ways around this involving a little engineering, but we know how some of you feel about those trained engineers, so we'll save that for another time.

Me likes trained engineers. They are smart, have experience and make sense.