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Casmir effect allows sub zero state of electron and method to rectify ZPE!

Started by froarty, November 17, 2008, 11:31:34 PM

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Koen1

Hmm... seems there is more to your idea than originally met the eye ;)

Your replies are of the clarity and tone that indicate a serious
path of thought and one that may deserve more thought on my part. :)
If you could, at your leasure, elucidate your idea some more,
that would be helpfull.

Meanwhile I shall shut up and let you point out the points you
want to point out. ;D

Kind regards,
Koen

alan

Haven't read the above yet.
Stupid question maybe, but is it the Casimir force that keeps the electron and nucleus apart?

froarty

Yes, vacumn fluctuations, also known as virtual particles, also can be described as an infinity of pico scopic "thumbs" instantly winking into and out of existence in normal space. They carry no charge but physically repel or displace any type of matter such that their density per unit of space is effected by the matter with which it shares space. they repel both the electron and nucleus in equilibrium against the electrons desire to reach the proton. they effectively determine an elements minimum radius from the nucleus as seen in the periodic chart. Casimir plates take advantage of the boundary effect between metal surfaces and free space. It takes 2 plates to set up a condition where this difference in virtual particle density can be exploited to do work --But--- in this case just moving 2 plates together does not provide "useful work" in that it would take an equal or greater force to now pry the plates apart. My theory is we can capture. The Mills' device appears to side step this by allowing hydrogen atoms in a "casimir cavity" to covalently bond while partially twisted into the dimension where virtual particles originate. the bond keeps the atoms from translating fully back to normal space when exiting the plates and energy is stored in the form of these normally chaotic virtual particles trying to expell the molecule out of its universe - The molecule only appears smaller from our perspective because it is actually displaced into another dimension. If the molecule is too compressed it will break the bond and release energy.

froarty

Question 4: How do you imagine to be able to allow only the hydrogen atoms to experience
Casimir forces and to keep any of the surrounding atoms from experiencing the same
effect? After all, it would be like putting two plates in a room with a lot of other plates,
and then expecting only those two plates to experience the Casimir effect while the
surrounding plates do not...?
Question 3 Also, why would two hydrogen atoms bond when pushed together? Atoms repel...
unless they form a chemical bond, which involves emission of photons...


Answer 3 : My weak chemistry background is showing : If the covalent bonding of H2 releases a photon I'm ok with that - you have to invest energy to make energy and giving up a photon to bond in.... oh lets go SCIFI and call it "N" space then fine. You will reap a handsome profit when that molecule exits the field still submerged in "N" space and the covalent bond is you rectifier or dam if you like. So far I have heard no mention of these material by products of the Blacklight being analysed but if they do exist it would be a real shame to burn them as fuel. If they are bonded into partial "submergence" in N space than they may be the long sought "oar" science has sought in order to dip into the ether. Can you imagine plasma coils of these interdimensional "hydrinos" flowing thru them to claw through space without propellant!

Answer 4   the first part of your question was why only the hydrogen atoms experience
Casimir forces and  keep any of the surrounding atoms from experiencing the same
effect? The short answer is I don't.... the casimir plates are primarily catalysts not reactants but so what if does react? any atoms small enough to fit between the plates that form molecular bonds while twisted into N space will serve as an energy container -hydrogen has the best opportunity since it's radius would allow plates the minimum spacing possible thereby minimum density of virtual particles and maximize the atoms displacement into N space. = more stress on the covalent bond when exiting the plates and the further this little "oar" bites into the ether.

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