Joule Thief

[NickZ]

   Totoalas:
   Ok, I think that I get it now. You are using the capacitive link from your AC wiring's neutral connection going to your earth ground to generate 22 volts, which provides the input to your circuit.
So,  If you turn the AC house breakers off to simulate a power out condition, the circuit will not work, then, right?  But, you mention that the 5 watt led bulb is still lighting just as brightly, as if,  it were connected to the grid, so long as the gird power is working?
Normally this does not provide for much output to brightly light bulbs, as there is practically no current.
I only read 0.7 volts (AC) between my Ac. neutral and the outside earth ground, and 0 volts on the DC setting. Not enough to light an led. But, it will dimly light the led on an Av plug, to about 1/4 brightness, or so.

[totoalas]

The light will stay on as long as there is neutral  earth connection the  brightness is the samewith my jr 0 160 ma output 70%  the battery is a little booster for the led strip since i cannot light both at the same time with ac neutral qnd 3arth ground alone......

[NickZ]

  Totoalas:
   I'm now working with the LS cross-over circuit, as in his diagram. I'm just getting into it, and aleady seeing some unusual things going on. Not an easy circuit to deal with, but hopefully it will be worthwhile.
   I'm seeing how the led lights up when the circuit is touched with ones hands or finger, and I have connected an earth ground and will connect the magnet up next.  More on that soon...
  Any ideas are welcome.
                                                                                NickZ

[totoalas]

Hi Nickz
good ... your on this also....  if you can amplify the voltage on the neutral / ground will be great ....... another idea is an aerial antenna in place of neutral so it can be strike anywhere    lol   

[NickZ]

  I'm familiar with using the AC ground and the earth ground as in my SEC Exciter circuits, and this cross over circuit has some similarities, as well.
   I'm not going to depend on the lighting effect from the Ac ground or neutral connection, as that will not work when the grid power is off, but IF it can be done without it,  by using other means, that would be great.
  I'm still wondering why I can't duplicate the capacitance effect when using Cfls on an exciter circuit, like how the bulbs will light much brighter when they are held in ones hand. I'm still hoping to find a equally useful substitute for ones body capacitance, without having to make huge coils.
  The antenna/ground idea is worth looking into with this cross over circuit.
   I think that Dr. Stiffler, and his PSEC was going towards this same anomaly in his own way.