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Joule Thief

Started by Pirate88179, November 20, 2008, 03:07:58 AM

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innovation_station

@MK1  he has passed me a link for my output caps last night ...  i was wondering if you would be so kind to post the link for the peeps... 8)

i do understand if you do not want to freely GIVE THIS OUT ...  but if you  do .....JUST DO IT  ;D

i forgot to tell you guys bout my alum RINGS ....  i had chewed out of some plate alum

they are .25" thick   1 "  face and 6" rings...  i got 6 of em

was gonna stack em and throw some feroite tranny cores in it wound as a jt ;)

with a magnet on the top of it ....  and a few pick up coils round the top ring....

but we will see how far i get back to the slayer 007 coils..

ist
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

timmy1729

Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 20, 2009, 02:01:22 PM
@ Gadgetmall:

Those shots were taken well over a year ago in the beginning of my experiments with the earth battery.  I would have to dig out my numbers but I believe I was up to 2.2 vdc and about 80 mA's.  Still a little light in the mA's area to match up to an AA battery.  I remember the 2.2 vdc number because a lot of folks told me this was just a galvanic reaction.  Well, if that was all it was the limit would be, as we know, 1.5 vdc.

Once the ground thaws out a bit here, I am going to test the JT on it first thing.  I put a supercap in series with the led but that is all I had done with a cap in those experiments.  It charged the cap while lighting the led and then, I could remove them from the earth battery and take the led inside where it would remain lit for several hours.

I hope to use my new 10F supercaps in a similar manner with both the earth battery, and my solar cells.  (2 different experiments)

You beat me to it by hooking the JT to your earth battery.  Great job though, I was confident it would work.  some of my electrical friends told me JT's only work with batteries but when I made the video showing one operating from a supercap, well, I knew they were wrong and the earth battery should work also.  And, you proved it did.  Great job!

I studied the earth battery quite a bit last year and I believe I can help you get your volts and power up.  PM me if I can be of service in any way.  This is going to be a fun spring isn't it?

Bill

@Gadgetmall & Bill

Yesterday I hooked up my small toroid JT up to the earth battery with a diode going from battery + to cap +(10v 2200uF) and the cap across the + and - of the JT. I got nothing. Maybe it would work with my big-toroid JT. I'll check this all out tomorrow since I'm off all day. I also tried hooking up my Kodak circuit and got nothing as well. I didn't have my meter with me outside so I don't have any numbers, but I'm going to play around with the meter and magnesium and get the voltage as high as I can and then see if I get anything from the JT and Kodak.

timmy1729

Quote from: Artic_Knight on January 20, 2009, 02:46:12 PM
@pirate

ill let you know a little secret that looks like someone else has found as well. look at the laws of eddy currents,. eddy currents is basically an air brake, if there is no eddy (and no iron) in the generator then there will be no resistance! make a custom generator with no iron when you do the windmill and on the output before you do anything with the output tie it directly to a capacitor using a diode to prevent the generator from becoming a motor!  this will eliminate eddy currents and practically all resistance except from the mechanical joints.

on a side note can someone please invent the magnetic ball bearing so we can eleminate friction all together!


I thought there were magnetic ball bearings.  ???
I have seen magnetic neo spheres. Could that not be used?

innovation_station

do you guys think that if we put a few LEDS on the return of the recharge cap it would limit our recharge flow ....


so as not to fill the 400f 2v caps to the point of where they blow our input curcutry....


or

DO WE SKIP THE SMALL CRAP AND STEP IT UP TO THE 3055   THEY TAKE A BEATING LET ME TELL YA  ;D   WHEN PORTECTED OF COURSE .... 

FETS DONT LIKE THIS FLY BACK STUFF.......  ITS MORE LIKE FRY BACK    LOL

unless .....      more later ...

ist!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Pirate88179

@ Jim and Tink:

Thanks for your answers.  What I was asking was about supercaps.  I know 1/10 of an amp can kill, I have read that many times.  What I don't know is in a 2.7 volt 400 F supercap, if that would be dangerous.  I guess the real question is.....how many amps can be stored in a 400 F supercap and would that be dangerous?

Supercaps are different in that they do not dump all of their stored energy all at one time like the caps on our fuji boards.  This is why I am confused here.  I will go back and read the link Jim posted. (Thanks Jim)  I have read a lot about regular capacitors in my studies but can find very little on super or ultra caps as pertains to possible safety issues.  And if a 400 F cap is safe, what would happen with a 4,000 Farad cap?

I was just concerned that I might be getting into a danger zone by ordering these 400 farad caps is all.

Thank you guys for your responses.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen