Joule Thief

[Pirate88179]

@ Al:

Thanks for the info!!  I was hoping it was something like that.  A movable core eh?  Great idea.  I think I can rig something like that.  I did not realize the distance between the rotor and the core was important but, now that you told me, I can see where it might be very good to be able to move it to get the best results.  Thanks to your info, I can work on it a bit tonight.  I appreciate the answer.

Bill

[innovation_station]

@ IST:

I can't wait to see it.


@ All:

All of my parts just came in  so now I can complete my Bedini motor and also, try that energy from the air experiment.  I have a question about the Bedini for those of you familiar with it.  I have read in a few places that I am not supposed to use neos on the motor.  They said I should just use the weaker ceramic magnets.  Is this really true?  (I am loaded with neos of all shapes and sizes)  It would seem to make sense that we would want the strongest magnetic field to get the most efficiency from the motor as it would be in a regular motor but, is there something in the Bedini design that works better with a weaker magnetic field from the magnets?  I can go to Hobby Lobby and get the ferrite magnets if I have to, I was just hoping to use what I already have and that they might even work better.  What do you think?  Has anyone used neos on their Bedini?  Thanks.

Bill

well neos work to a degree but why are weeker magnets needed ?

well i think you need to match coils to magnets    to get decent effects .... no i have not done this but i have a million ideas for it  to improve the common bedini

get ceramics or microwave magnets whatever shape you want .....

i got a trick for you to try    if i can remember it by the time you get the magnets.... 

ill touch on this brifly now

basicly take the motor as we know it and sypply it with a intrurupted power supply at 7.5hz so every time the coil is triggered it is fed 7.5 hz square or sine ....  whats gonna happin if the coils are tuned ?  tuned to what ??  resosnance wire lengeth  ..... what!?!?!?!?!?!

lol


nope ...... more to it 

bill get week magnets ....  so your coils dont need   so much masssssssssssss  you need MANY TURNS     way more than 700  like 2000 turns to start with ...   you want   to be able to push the magnet flux from the magnet  or BEND IT  to do this ... 

i hope you have a gausses meter ... 

and dont for get to make it layered  i recomend polorized with bedini   push coil ...  layered pick up coil i think it can be an  ac pic up coil

can get more complacted then this but there ya go ...

ist!


HEAR IS YOUR WARNING TO SAVE YOU ALL A TONNE OF MONEY ...... 

but first a question ....     why is neos  not the best choise aside the size of coil you need to get good results....

know how many fets i blew when the neo is in the correct place ....  yea they dont like it .....   MAYBE THE KICKS ARE TOO BIG.. 
maybe only a week feild is required   

i have some real nice week rings for my 36 n1 motor 

if you want to pulse a resonant freq or close to the coil you better hope your coils can handle it and ...   i wont use too biggg a magnet ....

perhaps this is RICHARDS PROBLEM LOL!!

ist

[jeanna]

Hey I have an idea!

How about a thread called Bedini with a joule thief? I bet it will have 50 pages before I return. I mean it sounds like a good topic. And a good topic all by itself?

Do you think so?

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

Good idea Jeanna!  Jonny Davro already has one.  I will post my Bedini stuff over there. ( I was going to start one but I remembered Jonny's topic)


@ IST:

Thank you too for the information.


Bill   ***EDIT***  Jeanna:  Jonny's topic is called "Joule Thief Bedini Motor."

[electricme]

@ Mk1
Thanks for the tips on the mirroring effects.

@ Jeanna,
What can I say, mice must live in fear of you at your place lol
Thanks for all the nice posts, hope you liked the cartoon too.

@Bill,
I didn't realise you were involved in the Bedini OU device, I havent made one yet, but its on my list of things to do one day.

@Al,
Don't worry, you will win out in the end, and you got real good electric stuff to come yet.

@all,
I had some success with my JT powering my bjg torid, the battery goes flat fairly fast now, but I'm looking for AMPs output, and I can recharge the battery anytime I need to.

Last night I mentioned I had 1 secondary, I rectified the output, and I have 2 LEDs being driven by the JT itself.

This morning I wound another identical secondary, (this makes 2 secondaries), I added identical Diodes and LEDS.

Then half an hour later on I wound a third secondary coil, set it up the same as the previous 2 coils.

All secondaries LEDs light up, I can countol all Parellel outputs via the Adjustable Resistor Wheel.

Next post I will discribe something NEW I discovered ha ha its pritty good this JT.

jim