Joule Thief

[xee2]

@ jeanna

0.012V copper to copper today.

I am not saying this is correct. But I think it is possible.

There are currents in the ground between metals that are there besides your copper pipes. Some of these metals are just part of the soil and some are objects put into the ground for one reason or another. When you put your two coopper pipes in the ground they may just be acting like probes on a voltmeter and reading the voltage that is generated by the currents that are already there flowing in the ground.

If that is the case, then I think it is probably fair to say that the EB is getting its voltage from the ground and not from the electrodes.

[jeanna]

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If that is the case, then I think it is probably fair to say that the EB is getting its voltage from the ground and not from the electrodes.

I think like the ocean and the atmosphere, that these currents in the earth are AC. or Random C at least.

It is very difficult to collect AC as everyone here is showing. If you collect it you must stop it from continuing to happen. It is from the caps that Bill uses that one can suspect that there really is a lot of AC in the ground. Enough to believe  that the stories one hears about Nathan Stubblefield lighting up the hill and heating his house could be true.

jeanna

[jeanna]

The output is wrong  . well its right from yesterday . i posted the corrected one today .
Gadget

I just looked again, I am not sure if this (xee's) is not the same for the output??

BTW what is the value of the disc cao?

thanks,

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

@ Xee2:

I wrote and submitted this 5 minutes ago but...it disappeared so I am trying it again.

I am the first to admit I, nor probably anyone else, fully understands what is happening with the EB's.  To me, the mystery is part of the fun.  My carbon rods have been in the earth since Nov. of 2007 and I dug them up to move them farther away for my new set-up.  They looked brand new to me once I cleaned the mud off them.  My understanding, limited as it is, is that any deterioration will occur on the anode side. (magnesium or whatever is used)  My small Mag. blocks looked ok too but, that is only visual.  If I were more of a scientist like Jeanna, I would have weighed them very accurately before burying them.  I have no way to do that with great accuracy and, I did not think of it until just now.  Stubblefield always said he had no damage to his metals even after years in the ground.  I doubt he weighed his either though.  The dry ground part of this threw me as it seems counter-intuitive but, several testers reported this from different areas of the world.

So, I feel like there is a lot more to this that needs to be explored.  there are several "working" theories as to where the energy comes from.  Telluric currents, grid leakages, (In Stubblefiled's time, there was no grid) molten earth core (iron and nickel) spinning and reacting with the copper in the upper crust like a generator, etc.  I have no idea which of these, if any, is the real case.

You should try this sometime.  You can do it on a small scale very fast and cheap.  Maybe you will be the one to figure out why it is happening.  If you decide to give it a go, pm me and I can give you some good links on alignments and stuff.  Thanks.

Bill

[xee2]

@ jeanna

If it is AC, perhaps it is from the power lines. The pole transformers have an earth ground and  currents run through this and capacitively couple to the wires. This creates a lot of AC ground currents near the poles with transformers on them. Most older houses were required to have an earth ground at the fuse box and these also could generate AC currents in the ground. The problem in understanding what is going on is that there are so many unknown variables. So I think your approach and Bill's of just saying "I did this and it worked" is possibly the best that can be done.