Joule Thief

[TheNOP]

Thank you for the advice! Can you recommended some Super Caps that I can order online to test with?

the 1 farad kind should be enough for testing and do not cost a leg.

[innovation_station]

O IM SORRY BRO

I HAVE MY CAPS HOOKED RIGHT OFF THE BRIDGE POS AND NEG TO BRIDGE THEN POS ONLY  TO RECHARGE BATTERY  FROM THE CAP OR IF YOU ARE USEING A SINGLE DIODE OFF YOUR JT THEN YOU CAN TAKE GROUND FOR YOUR CAP RIGHT FROM SOURCE BATTERY

NEG OF RECHARGING BATTERY SHARES COMMON GROUND WITH DRIVEING BATTERY

CHEERS !

IST!

PS YOU MUST HAVE THE DIODE OFF THE CAP OR IT WILL BACK FEED  .... THE CAP FILLS UP AND PUSHES ...

IM BUILDING TONIGHT ...   SO I MAY MAKE A VIDEO OF THE MK2 COILS I WILL USE FOR THE SH!FT COIL  IF I DO I WILL HOOK IT UP AS I DESCRIBE ...

[gadgetmall]

I  agree in part 
Simply  looking at the  voltage  is not  a very  good  indicator  of  how much energy is available  in a battery .
Batterys   store the energy in chemical form ....   so the interaction is  complex

As I see it  if your  battery has less  ability  to power  a  load   with each  charge cycle  of your circuit   then   the volts are indeed  empty .
If  the  battery  lasts   as long  in  later tests as it did in  earlier  tests then   it   is  charged with real voltage .

gary

Edit
I have read that the Bedini SG  does not  really charge the  batterys as it seems to ........It is said that each cycle  the battery holds less .

I do not believe it .

A skeptic  only needs to win one argument  to win.
No matter how   good   your idea  is ....... you  won't  take the time to  get it going  if you no longer  believe it will work
This  forum has lost  alot of great ideas to this  little fact .

A  common tactic  is to attack one fact  as if it was the whole project .
If they can  prove a point about that one fact ...... the whole project is usually  dropped .

Not for a second . SOme Bedinies are ou / like mine Have you checked out My video on a hard drive bedini with a piggy back coil . Well first this Bedini Bi coil puts out enuff amps to light a 130 volts incandescent lamp continuously  and this type of current has fried many Sla Battery already . It uses a cap to make the amps from the BEMF . Simple . This However Makes a wet Cell battery 10 time more efficient without the heat of a hard charger using one diode and a cap you still get a pulsing from the output . a bridge and a cap no . Its Filtered  good and converts all the pulses to dc amps There is probably still a trace of a induced pulse from the components being so close to the coil however .The Piggyback coil alone keeps the Primary battery hot at all times . It Is a wet Cell battery . The Piggy back current it over 80 milliamps . the Bedini only takes less than 20 ma to run . I am Proud of it and i dont even care if anyone believes it or not . All i care about is its OU to me and i Charge every battery i have with it for free . even non rechargeable . 40 or 50 times before they rupture and leak .

Aaltrez . your friend does not know what we are doing . you cannot light up 100-400 leds with a dc to dc converted running on one volt . I think not . you need the ac we are getting from the BEMF . that's the key to our energy . We are capturing the OFF voltage . thus the reverse dc pulse make it look like ac. The Charge you are getting is Real if it was dead to begin with and thus you are recharging it and using it by swapping it so its a real charge . Other wise if you only had one battery and ran just lights . when its dead its dead . now to have a way to capture the wasted voltage and store it . I'm an Electronics technician and  for 30 years have been repairing everything down to the component level and i know first hand when i build My first bedini that the whole story was never taught .They  teach you that when you put x amount of ac in a transformer that has say two secondaries that it splits the current  between the two but they dont tell you you can harness the heat  and make electricity from that with a pelteir module or that you can capture the Rf Field with other coils and germanium diodes and get power from that . or the fact . Just a few things i had to learn on my own .  The Charge on My E-lights is real . I took a 3 battery system and turned it into a one battery system and it still does what it was intended to do ,Longer light now and PLUS it recharges another battery so you will always have a battery hot . I can tell you i have ran my design over 2 weeks flipping and she still lights up all night . , This is not Normal Electronics operations . This is something else not on the market for a good reason . It would upset the economy to have everything power itself so they say . I don;'t care about the Economy . I care about having  free energy and keeping the money in My pocket for food not stinking oil and Nuclear power plant Misers  . If i build it and i see it does something nothing else will then i have accomplished a bi of that and did not hurt any one  and in fact saved money from buying two more batteries  .

@ I have said it before the Jt is an RF source , a transmitter also rather than a transformer alone and you can light up neons and tubes and leds with 1/100 the specified power that was required to light these devices with RF a form of ac  .

Gadget

[altrez]

O IM SORRY BRO

I HAVE MY CAPS HOOKED RIGHT OFF THE BRIDGE POS AND NEG TO BRIDGE THEN POS ONLY  TO RECHARGE BATTERY  FROM THE CAP OR IF YOU ARE USEING A SINGLE DIODE OFF YOUR JT THEN YOU CAN TAKE GROUND FOR YOUR CAP RIGHT FROM SOURCE BATTERY

NEG OF RECHARGING BATTERY SHARES COMMON GROUND WITH DRIVEING BATTERY

CHEERS !

IST!

PS YOU MUST HAVE THE DIODE OFF THE CAP OR IT WILL BACK FEED  .... THE CAP FILLS UP AND PUSHES ...

IM BUILDING TONIGHT ...   SO I MAY MAKE A VIDEO OF THE MK2 COILS I WILL USE FOR THE SH!FT COIL  IF I DO I WILL HOOK IT UP AS I DESCRIBE ...

Ok I think I understand now will any cap do?

-Altrez

[altrez]

Not for a second . SOme Bedinies are ou / like mine Have you checked out My video on a hard drive bedini with a piggy back coil . Well first this Bedini Bi coil puts out enuff amps to light a 103 volts incandescent lamp continuously  and this type of current has fried many Sla Battery already . This However Makes a wet Cell battery 10 time more efficient without the heat of a hard charger . The Piggyback coil alone keeps the Primary battery hot at all times . It Is a wet Cell battery . The Piggy back current it over 80 milliamps . the Bedini only takes less than 20 ma to run . I am Proud of it and i dont even care if anyone believes it or not . All i care about is its OU to me and i Charge every battery i have with it for free . even non rechargeable . 40 or 50 times before they rupture and leak .

Aaltrez . your friend does not know what we are doing . you cannot light up 100-400 leds with a dc to dc converted running on one volt . I think not . you need the ac we are getting from the BEMF . that's the key to our energy . We are capturing the OFF voltage . thus the reverse dc pulse make it look like ac. The Charge you are getting is Real if it was dead to begin with and thus you are recharging it and using it by swapping it so its a real charge . Other wise if you only had one battery and ran just lights . when its dead its dead . now to have a way to capture the wasted voltage and store it . I'm an Electronics technician and  for 30 years have been repairing everything down to the component leverl and i know first hand when i build My first bedini that the whole store was never taught . The Charge on My E-lights is real . I took a 3 battery system and turned it into a one battery system and it still does what it was intended to do ,Longer light now and PLUS it recharges another battery so you will always have a battery hot . I can tell you i have ran my design over 2 weeks flipping and she still lights up all night . , This is not Normal Electronics operations . This is something else not on the market for a good reason . It would upset the economy to have everything power itself so they say . I don;'t care about the Economy . I care about having  free energy and keeping the money in My pocket for food not stinking oil and Nuclear power plant Misers  . If i build it and i see it does something nothing else will then i have accomplished a bi of that and did not hurt any one  and in fact saved money from buying two more batteries  .

Gadget

It is running right now. In charging mode! Same two battery's I need to figure out a way to automatically switch when the voltage gets low.

I still have yet to tune anything I think if I swtich to a 4-12 on the primary and 4 pickup coils of 50 turns each I will do a whole lot better!

Oh and BTW I am not OU but I believe you are I have seen some of Bedini's stuff and it looks legit to me! I made a IRO and it works and cost all of 4 bucks

It can charge non rechargeable battery's just fine I love it! I have made like 5 now for friends and they love them as well.

-Altrez