Joule Thief

[electricme]

@Thaelin
Ohhhh yes, now you are getting closer

Hi all:
   Now, since I am on the subject of resonance. I have a problem trying to find out how to calculate the ring down frequency of a parallel tank. What I am trying to find is if I fire the tank with one input cycle, how many cycles will it have internal before the time for the next input spike? I have ask this a few places and not one seems to know. Any help will be much appreciated. Some where on this forum I remember that being addressed but just too many places to look.

thaelin

OK, I am up against this problem also, and there is a different answer for your JT, as to mine, but the answer is simalir to both or three.

As you know there are many differences between components, caps and resistors.
It takes a certain amount of time to fill a cap compared to a different value cap, then this alters again if the voltage to fill the cap goes higher or lower.

Then, do you want to fill the cap to the brim? if so, then the time to fill the cap will take much longer.
So some people take the parth of allowing the cap to fill to, say, a certain percentage (65%) and then use this amount of energy in the cap.

As a cap will discharge most of its energy in a split second (up to a point) then you can then go and recharge the cap and discharge it again and again and again, over and over.

To do this, bring in a 555 timer IC, there are pins on the side of the 555 which control the output to triger a transister to control the whole process, so making this automatic so to speak.

The output pin on a 555 IC is pin 3
so if you take part of this output "hi" or (+) and take it back to the reset pin 6 and 2 coupled together, via a resistor, you have a "feed back control".

Then there is a cap connected between them and (-) neg, then you have a "tank" circuit which you could call a Mark space Ratio to control the out put pulses at pin 3.

If the resistor is a adjustable one, then you can slow down or speed up the out streem of pulses.
eg if for arguments sake usa 500k pot, at 500k  it would take forever to get 1 hi out at pin 3
but if it was a 10 ohms it would output a great streem of pulses at pin 3.
You can also alter this again by changing the cap.

@ Altrez
Here is what I mean about the TinyCAD

jim
 

[TheNOP]

call it what you will but if it quacks i call it a duck.

in the case of the heat pump they say its 300% effecient (i think that figure is for geothermals) and i say anything over 100% is over unity. the only down side is i dont think the boys figured out how to tap it for raw current. or if they did the documents got sequestered in a vault somewhere.  how can you say a unit has to be over 100% effecient and not aknowledge a unit that has made it even though it only deals in moving temperatures?

like i said, everyone have their own idea of OU.
i view it as "over efficientcy" like you said, and according to Mannix, a heat pump can't be called OU because the "OU" energy source is know.

if you move a electric force at over 200% effieciency from one battery to another is that not considered OU?

i have yet to see this with my own eyes.
all i have seen to date are wrong measurement/calculations and/or calculations that do not take time frame into account.

you can charge a 10F capacitor to 3000 volts from a 120 V DC source and it will take minutes to do so.

do you have an idea of how many amps will flow the instant you will short the cap ?
the amps flow will be way more then 10^6 amps in a fraction of second.
is this OU ?
to me, you have put 30000 watts in it, and you are discharging 30000 watts from it when you short it out.

[electricme]

@Artic_Knight

by the way i did some research on water and resonate frequencies and found that jenna was right and i was right. the 2.4-2.5 ghz frequencies is resonate for the water to obsorb energy as heat however jennas frequency of 42,800 is the actual resonate frequency for destruction of the water molecule.  still its kinda odd that microwave ovens operate at the 2.4-2.5 ghz level and the ground is at the 2.4mhz level isnt it? maybe we should explore the 2.4mhz level and its relation to electricity and magnetism?  i would do so myself if i had a scope. if someones bored they might want to set the freq generator to that (dont all scopes have one?) and play around :-p maybe 2.4mhz is near the resonate frequency of magnetism? and if so we can create a tidal wave of magnetism to harness

There are several frequencies that agitate the water molecule at resident frequencies 42,800 is just one of them.
Put an industrial piezo in the water tank, then if one hits the water molecule with a audio frequency with a hi powered audio amplifier, then at the same time with a DC higher voltage you have a separation between H2O. Take a look at the Ironheads forum on HHO, one also has to take into consideration the capatance of the whole setup as well.

Scopes do not usually have frequency generators, (although their inturnals do have them) they only display the frequency as seen by the probes on the screen, the result which was created by a frequency generator, ie a joule thief output.

jim

[electricme]

@all,
I just found a web site that just blew me away literally.
The information on LEDs is awsome here, just what you can do with LEDs.

This chap has found a 100Watt LED module, which is actually an array of Star Luxon Leds, it needs a massive heatsink with a fan blower to get rid of the heat, now I wonder if our joulethief could make it run cooler? lol. It costs $500 australian

The output is to be seen to be believed, it can burn holes in stuff, it is brighter than a set of car 100watt headlights, this is the way of economy lightning.
 
Click on this to go to it   http://tesladownunder.com/LEDs.htm

Then scroll to the bottom to see what a 2N3055 gets up to in the dark, ha ha ha, amazing stuff this

jim

[Paul-R]

is that the case or is OU getting more out than you put in?

Yes. It means that YOU get more out than YOU put in. But it
is not that the extra is invented. It comes from a source not
clearly understood by most people and all schools Physics
teachers.

Check out the Nobel Physics prize for 1957 (difficult), Hal
Puthoff and quantum foam (fluctuations)